Sunday, April 1, 2012

more groups, same sasaengbums

I wanted to show more groups than just JYJ though they are the most plagued by sasaengs in some senses or more so they are the ones who get tormented nonstop without fail . Here are other post on other groups as well as JYJ and some of what they have gone through.

http://ibigbang.wordpress.com/2011/06/20/fanaccount-2-sasaeng-fans-top-wanted-us-to-sit-in-the-van-with-him/

http://www.dongbanger.com/five-in-the-black/jyj-kbs-ridiculous-report-kpop-03182012/



this person has 6 videos 1-6 all titled stalking Super Junior








Anti Fans and Sasaengbums go hand in hand







Sasaengbum taxi action



Articles

http://nynyonlinex.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/inside-the-reality-of-a-sasaeng-fan/

http://forevershiningshinee.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/sasaeng-fans-talk-about-stalking-shinee/

most popular fan site is run by Sasaengbum and apparently this is actually a common thing

http://en.korea.com/shinee/board/fan-site-onew-style-closes-and-wrote-an-apology/

http://jujugal.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/some-facts-and-thoughts-on-what-happened/

A certain photo in this one had my eyes rather bulging from my sockets see for yourselves

http://www.soompi.com/news/a-managers-perspective-on-sasaeng-fans

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Sasaeng Paranoia

These days everyone is paranoid over sasaengbums everyone worries about the source of photos I believe that a photo that is taken where it shouldn't be taken is a stalker photo or stalker type of photo. I hate the logos and writing on photos as I started before but I also hate how it makes me think of the sasaengbum ss well .

I do not like photos that I should not see like of the singers sleeping in male only spas, them mourning the loss of loved ones and I do not like photos that are so up close it's as though the person taking the picture were standing right next to them .

I found this one blog that looked so sasaengbum like but I have concluded it is really just a hardcore fan by looking at her twitter.

everyone is paranoid and sasaengbums are getting more edgy and over the top.

Monday, March 26, 2012

Stalking

This post is to discuss a website that once seemed good and innocent but who have recently seemed more sketchy as the activities of Sasaengbum becomes more known everyone is starting to feel paranoid none wanting to openly approve of sasaengbum materials or behaviours and yet fearing they just might be.

I am a fan of too many entertainers dating for the 40's til now all styles of music I am very open with my musical interests. I have taken photos of entertainers before I have alot of photos from when I myself was merely 13 years old, I went to a concert that had 4 groups playing those groups were Edwin, RedSkull, Moist and Serial Joe I was hugely interested in Serial Joe though I liked the other singers and groups as well I took some photos but most of my film was saved for Serial Joe I wished so much that I had a better camera than a disposable >.< but in my heart and mind even looking at the tiny figures I could recall everything that had happened and relive those moments of my first real live concert I ever attended with my bestfriend. I never showed off those photos never posted them online although I could have but it meant more to me having them to myself. I have backstage photos of Simple Plan from a friend that was working backstage with them I have them but I do not go posting them for everyone to have and I hate ruining photos by writing over them . I ruined so many photos when I was young that I regretted it so now I get irritated when I see writing in the middle of an otherwise gorgeous photo.

there is more meaning for me in keeping photos to myself then spreading them around if I don't want to share I won't post them. But more then that I think people Sasaengs photos half the time look creepy because the artists are busy doing their own things not expecting the photos to be taken at a concert they expect it.

Anyways here is a site that people are questioning the sources of and feeling ill at ease with over the materials they post.

http://sharingyoochun.net/

here is a specific post that has most peoples hair standing on edge

http://sharingyoochun.net/2012/03/26/pic-120325-stalking-junsu/#comment-631301
I normally would not be posting these kind of things since I do not wish to encourage sasaengbum activities but someone needs to show the limitless brassones(*Balls* term relating to guts) these girls have. This site that once appeared innocent to many people now have posts called Stalking so and so they use the term stalking and feel it is appropriate to post these materials that invade the persons privacy knowing full well it is wrong since everyone who knows the term stalker knows what it implies.

Saturday, March 24, 2012

Reality of sasaengs




Recently there is a new picture of JYJ's Jaejoong Kim making rounds online where he has blonde hair he took the photo on his cellphone but he has not posted the photo online where did this photo come from ? it came from his phone but a sasaengbum who cloned his phone seems to be the cause of this as soon as there is confirmation on this I will update this blog but for now it appears the sasaengbum stole the photo off his cellphone with their clone. That is massively scary!

This video shows clear as day how serious this situation is prostitution extortion violence it needs to be stopped. It is very ironic how they all run away as though scared and shamed from their actions when they are under the camera lens but they see nothing wrong with their own behaviours and actions.



Transcribed (Korean version) and Translated(English version) by @dlwpdldhkdlwp

Note:

-Because this is a rough translation, there might be many grammatical and spelling mistakes.

-No infringement of copyright intended.
-Please DO NOT post and/or modify my translation on any TVXQ5, TVXQ2, COUPLE SHIPPER, ACGAE, ONLY-ONE-MEMBER and/or SASAENG SUPPORTING sites.

-Have a nice day! :)

English Version

Time


Audio (narration, interview, etc.)


Video (captions, pictures, etc.)

0:00


(How would you feel), If someone is interested in your every move and keeps an eye you 24/7?


People who keep an eye on stars!



0:06


Male 1:

“It is scary”



0:07


Male 2:

”Isn’t it distorted obsession?”



0:09





Distorted love!

‘Sasaeng fans’ who chase after stars



0:14


On last 8th, group JYJ officially apologized regarding the incident of assaulting fan during the press conference of South America Tour.




March 8th, Chile

The Press Conference of JYJ’s ‘South America Tour’



0:17


Interview of JYJ Kim Jaejoong

“We would like to apologize for our wrongful actions in the past.”



0:19


Interview of JYJ Park Yuchun

“People monitoring me every minute, trying to share everything related to me, and unilaterally chasing me made me feel like living in a prison without bars”



0:21


Due to this incident, distresses of popular celebrities, who have been suffered by diehard fans for a long time, became the issue again.


“Collect the blood of menstruation and give to Junsu”



“Secretly break into the dormitory of TVXQ and kiss on Jaejoong’s lips”



“Follow Junsu and cause car accidents.”



“Register at PC Room (Internet cafĂ©) using the Social Security Number of Yuchun”



“Brutalities done by few fans are revealed one by one”



0:27


Shadowing/following is basics. They monitor, trespass, and use violence. Stars are no longer objects of envy to people who are called as sasaeng fans.






0:34-0:44





Are these not too much to endure even for stars… To slink and hide like prisoner while having meals, working, taking a rest, and going home for 7 years?



0:35


Manager ‘A’ of an entertainer:

Following stars after the official schedule are sasaengs. Sasaengs are who dig for the privacies of stars.



0:45


In front of fans who are blindly chasing after private lives of stars, the stars became naked and lost their minimum rights to live like human beings.


Sasaeng fan: A fan who chase after the privacy of a celebrity. A diehard fan who follows every move of his/her favorite celebrity, especially idol singers.



0:51


How serious is sasaeng fans?




Fans waiting for visual show.



0:54


We went in front of a broadcasting company where a visual show was scheduled. Even in cold weather, it was crowded with fans who came to see stars from early morning.






1:04


Production Crew:

What do you like (about star), which made you to come to visual show?



1:08


Hardcore Fan:

It is just nice to see celebrity.



1:11


The object of aspire and envy, the star used to be a person fans watched from far away.




1:17


But, fans chase after the car of the celebrity, who is travelling for the next schedule.


Fans chasing after stars.



1:25


Taxis with fans, which are trying to catch, and the celebrity’s car, which are trying to get away, get engaged in a chase on the road.



Those are sasaeng taxis whcih regularly pick up sasaeng fans chasing after stars.


The chase on the road with taxis.



1:40


Manager ‘B’ of an entertianer:

Managers usually do not know well about them. Each member has them (sasaeng fans).



1:47


We could find the seriousness of the problem of sasaeng taxis from many celebrities’ writings.




-Emphasized parts of Jaejoong’s tweets

“Because of those groups (of sasaengs) , I had to waste 2-3 hours on the road or could not meet …”

“I think sasaeng taxis who call to fans are more vicious people of society.”





-“Serious distresses of celebrities who do not have privacies”



1:53


Sasaeng taxi drivers actively advertise for customers.


Drivers would make fortune through that kind of business and teenagers will take away the time and freedom of people whom they say they love.

1:57


We searched (for sasaeng taxi). Surprisingly, they (taxi drivers) were waiting for fans with their contact numbers on their blogs.




Did even ‘sasaeng taxi’ made an appearance?

2:00


Sasaeng taxis drivers who collect customers through blogs were found!

2:03


Production crew:

How much do I have to pay per day?



2:06


A sasaeng taxi driver:

Three taxi drivers work together. It is 9 hours. It costs 500 thousand Won for 9 hours. We went to *beep* three days ago.



2:14


Production crew:

Which car will be used for following?



2:17


A sasaeng taxi driver:

A sedan.



2:18


Production crew:

Does it look like a taxi?



2:21


A sasaeng taxi driver:

No, it is just personal car.

2:23


The production crew decided to meet the sasaeng taxi driver.


Next day. The appointed time to meet the sasaeng taxi driver.



2:26


We called because it was the appointed time






2:32


Because the person cannot be reached, you will be connected to the voicemail box. After the beep…




The sasaeng taxi driver disappeared without a trace

2:36


Probably due to the overheating coverage, he did not show up after all.



2:41


(Sasaengs) pursue the celebrity’s every move even by using illegal taxis and post obtained information online.


The celebrity’s private life is made public by sasaeng fans.



2:45





A diary of a sasaeng fan on her blog. (It talks about Jaejoong at Sauna)

2:48


As the desire to know more about star expanded to greed, the star’s privacy and freedom are seriously infringed.


“Secretly break into the dormitory of TVXQ and kiss on Jaejoong’s lips”



Their fan spirits are passing over love and attention.



2:54


Cha Jinsan (24):

”Isn’t it distorted obsession?”

2:57


Jung Gioak (61):

I believe it is wrong to chase after private life.



3:02


Professor Gwak Geumju/ Seoul National University Psychology :

When many people form a group, each individual would usually get hidden/ insignificant. They get urge to show off to others how much they know more about the celebrity. Then, they pry into the privacy of the celebrity. In some degree, they are affected by the hero syndrome and try to show they are more exceptional to the crowd regardless of torments celebrities receive.



3:34


We went to a village where a celebrity lives to investigate the seriousness of the controversy.






3:39


The owner of neighboring store :



Lots of taxis (which fans ride) stay here and fans usually sit on that side. If fans monitor my every move every day and come dozens of times like stalkers, I would yell at them. Even if I were him.



3:54


The security guard of the apartment:

Fans pass here to get into the parking lot. Securities see them from CCTV. We see them, but they sometimes go in while we are looking away.



4:04


Production Crew:

Have you ever found out fans trying to get in (to the parking lot) and chase them out?



4:07


The security guard of the apartment:

Yes. To be honest, I don’t understand why they are like that… They are noisy. Because they always come and stay in front of the house, many residents continuously feel uncomfortable.



4:21


Another serious fact is these actions, regardless of their intentions, can be considered as crimes and they can be punished.






4:29


Lawyer Kim Hyunjae:

Those actions committed by sasaeng fans can be legally punished. According to the Criminal Law, housebreaking and indecent assault can be applied and they can be sentenced to at most 10 years.



4:41


How do majority of fans think about these actions done by sasaeng fans?






4:47


A member of fan club (normal fan):

They (Sasaeng fans) are usually young. They believe they are different from normal fans about how much they know about the members. Although we should be the same fans, they believe they are special and they get really obsessed with mobile phones because sasaeng fans can find out where members go and with whom they work.



5:04


Collecting mobile phone numbers are not everything.




“Please send me a message if you need TVXQ’s telephone numbers or Social Security Numbers. I am not giving them for free. I am selling them.” (source: A blog of sasaeng fan)



The traffic of personal information of celebrities is openly occuring.



5:07


Telecommunication company ‘A’:

You cannot check with only this information.



5:10


Telecommunication company ‘B’:

You need to go personally to the telecommunication company with your own ID card.



5:14


Telecommunication company ‘C’:

You have to personally visit the shop. You also need to bring your mobile phone.



5:18


They not only find out telephone numbers but also collect celebrity’s ID card or personal belongings. It is unbelievable few teenagers could do these. While we were tracking down the process, we could meet an agent of inquiry agency who does dangerous jobs (for sasanegs).




Even the companies which handle secret investigations of celebrities are prevalent.



5:39


An agent of inquiry agency:



Sasaeng fans are stalkers even to me.

They even said they will die after killing someone.

They are not normal.

Those people (sasaeng fans) even request to find out the color of clothes the celebrity wears when he sleeps.
A young student even said she will give 100 million Won if I get certain celebrity’s underwear.

As you can see, there is current position, right?



6:09


Production Crew:



Do you mean the part with an arrow?



6:10


An agent of inquiry agency:



Yes, what the client put on the car of celebrity shows up. In real time



6:15


Production Crew:



Do they follow them in real time?



6:17


An agent of inquiry agency:



They (sasaengs) stick to them (celebrities).

6:19


From sasaeng taxis, CCTV, and request to an inquiry agency: the obsession of sasaeng fans have already crossed the line and went against common sense.


Fans are chasing after the star by any means necessary.

6:26


A member of fan club (normal fan):

We innocently love the celebrities, but we also get insulted due to those (excessive) actions done by sasaeng fans. It is really upsetting.



6:35


The roots of Korean pop culture, which is expending internationally, were magnificent star system and passionate fan culture.




It is not related to the particular incident.



6:44


We look forward to healthier/ more wholesome fan culture for the development of pop art that we love and are proud of.

6:55


Kim Hunsik, a Culture Critic:



Various events or management for profit (of entertainment production companies or celebrities) are important. But, entertainment production companies or celebrities should be active to establish healthy/wholesome fan culture by holding public meetings and seeking countermeasures for the fan culture with problem.

Monday, March 19, 2012

more info

this is off of twitter it was well written if you ignore some grammar issues please read and learn more about Sasaengbums.

http://twitpic.com/8ylguf

I found a few other sasaengbums but I will not have any translations for a while yet since my friend has a lot of work she has to do tonight.

I do not want to leave this blog with so much more to say and so I will continue to tell you what I have discovered about Sasaengbums.

I have a twitter account @emjahay and today I decided to spend some time on it I look for JYJ fans so I can pass this blog onto them and try to get as much help and support from other fans not only with raising more awareness but also with our projects to show our love and support to JYJ who no matter how brave and strong they are are undergoing hard times right now trying desperately to appear "alright" for the sake of the fans that love them truly honestly and without fail or judgement.
While I was looking at my twitter feed I noticed a tweet that went like so (for her safety I will omit the poster) ‏I report (also to not promote harassment of sasaengbum I will omit her name as well) for stalking @ mjjeje @ 1215thexiahtic @ 6002theMicky(Korean artist)& sharing their private information via twitter @spam

this caught my curiousty without even realizing it I had retweeted the first one without question but then I worried about wrongly accusing someone so I went to check out her twitter she only had two tweets and I do not read hangul I've stated before google kinda sucks with translating korean/english but the impression I got was that this girl wasn't sasaengbum but more of the previous tweets came and once again I checked them out these ones proved to be PRIVATE accounts. "who makes twitter private? " was my first thought then I noticed one of them although they put their twitter to private they forgot that they put their blog up so I CLICKED IT! I ALMOST wished I hadn't but then I thought to myself "MJ if you really want to make a change you need to roll in the mud with the lowest and dirtiest of people" so I went back to looking through the entries and looking at the blogs she looked at recently and who her neighbor was and so on so forth finding another one or 2 sasaengbums on top of her.

A stalkers blog

I found sasaengbum accounts on twitter several were private only allowing people to see their twitters upon following approval but there are some who do not think to do that and so you are able to see those once PRIVATE tweets. My skin was crawling I had what asians tend to call chicken flesh and us english call goosebumps. I felt an inner terror looking at this one girls Naver blog the hairs on the back of my neck rose as I imagined how Junsu must have felt with her taking his photos from so upclose, I have to wonder if his flesh was tingling by the presence of her unseen eyes or if he could all but feel her breathing on the back of his neck. The feelings I felt seeing the VERY upclose photos the chills I got translating some of her texts (mind you google kinda sucks with korean english translations) I couldn't even fanthom the terror these men face every day that terror they claim to feel is certainly real if I can look at those pictures and feel horrified and panicked I fear to try and feel the same level of fear they must live with.


Sunday, March 18, 2012

JYJ PROJECT

[ANNOUNCEMENT] FAN PROJECT: "TAKE MY HEART JYJ"

With everything that has been happening with JYJ, they need all the support they could get to stay strong. From the title of the project, we will compile fan photos holding a heart and turn it into a video slideshow. It will represent us offering our hearts in place of theirs, to endure the pain and suffering they are experiencing.

Requirements:

1. A photo of a fan holding a red heart. I encourage everyone to make their photos as artistic as possible. You can consult me if you need help. Please refer to the sample photo. copy paste link below

https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418305_411657715517456_100000196946619_1819196_730457006_a.jpg

Model: Novavi San Ramon (group admin)

2. Complete this statement: "Take my heart for it is ______________ (e.g. strong, tough, etc.)" Then add a reason why it is so.

You can either post the photo in this group or email me at hbunnychan@gmail.com

Deadline is on Wednesday, March 21, 2012 I hope everyone will participate. If you have questions or suggestions, please feel free to comment.
UPDATE we have moved the date a week longer so so add 7 days to each date ^_^

We will release the video on Friday, March 23, 2012, and on this day we will also encourage everyone to trend #takemyheartJYJ on Twitter. Time for trending will be announced in a few days.

Saturday, March 17, 2012

Sasaengbum files

the group I am working with on Facebook has made this compilation of sasaengbum articles I have posted much of this on my previous post but I like how this was put together please take the time to read all the translations and look at the photos.

There will be many repetitions in here but there is alot I failed to post on my previous blogs. Thank You

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B47-GW0Bn-F5SnkxTTZRNWxUaE9JcjJjTktPb05IUQ/edit?pli=1

Friday, March 16, 2012

articles

This post will have a bunch of articles all about sasaengbums and other things related to what this blog is all about

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gf06rp

http://blog.ningin.com/2011/06/23/cn-blue-accused-of-throwing-away-artists-albums-denies-rumors/

http://www.gokpop.com/news/top-star-news-writes-about-jyj-the-lightandshadow-surrounding-jyj-::10870.html

http://www.koreancandy.com/blog/2012/03/vop-how-did-sasaeng-fan-culture-come-to-be/

https://www.facebook.com/notes/em-jahay/mickeys-brother-speaks-up-about-sasaengs/10150595822225779


http://chienna.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/perspectives-the-jyj-incident/

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/geaosb

http://naesukkie.blogspot.com/2011/11/jang-keun-suk-i-feel-lonely-jang-geun.html#axzz1p8h4ylww

http://www.tvxqaustralia.org/?p=4207

http://blog.ningin.com/2011/02/27/beasts-yoseob-praised-for-reprimanding-vandals/

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gd2375

http://en.korea.com/?p=328049

http://www.mydaily.co.kr/news/read.html?newsid=201203120832161112&ext=na

english translation here

My Daily Reporter Lee Seunglok

Translated by @dlwpdldhkdlwp
Note:

-Because this is a rough translation, there might be many grammatical and spelling mistakes.
-No infringement of copyright intended.
-Please DO NOT post and/or modify my translation on any TVXQ5, TVXQ2, COUPLE SHIPPER, ACGAE, ONLY-ONE-MEMBER and/or SASENG SUPPORTING sites.
-Have a nice day! :)

KBS 2TV ‘Entertainment Relay,’ which had nibbled away its reliability with the biased report of Group Big Bang, brought disgrace on the fame and authority of the entertainment report program of the public broadcasting with the biased report related with group JYJ.

Due to ‘Entertainment Relay,’ people are arguing back and forth about ‘how many times she got hit” instead of discussing the essentials of the problem.

But, there is a point that one needs to address regarding the controversy of JYJ’s saseng fans: “Who gave rise to this controversy?”

The materials related to JYJ had quickly spread for one month until the media revealed the audio file of JYJ. They contain shocking contents of assault, using abusive languages, etc.; however, these old materials were intensively revealed recently at the similar period.

Also, these materials have something in the common: they were either filmed or recorded privately. These contents seemed to be attained while stalkers, widely known as saseng fans, chased after JYJ during TVXQ period. This also means that these materials were possessed by saseng fan, who filmed or recorded them, and were only shared between saseng fans. Then, it is doubtful why they have revealed these materials.

During the interview with ‘Entertainment Relay,’ a JYJ’s saseng fan said “I did not record it but another unnie recorded it. I thought that unnie had it and did not know she would spread it. This one is from 2009.”

It is shocking that the saseng fan seems not to realize the seriousness of the problem; however, it is more shocking that saseng fans, who call themselves as fans, purposely spread these materials to slander JYJ.

Saseng fans,who performed any actions in order to make the celebrity to recognize them, even wanted to control the destinies of celebrities.

Of course, one cannot justify the actions JYJ have performed to saseng fans. It is true that their actions were wrong.

The reason why the starting point is doubtful is the malicious purpose saseng fans had developed to another state of affairs. Although JYJ has disappointed the public, the public is more startled about the reality of saseng fans. People are criticizing saseng fans more and discussing solutions and et cetera.

Saseng fans might have dreamed of the collapse of JYJ. Thus, they might disclose more provocative materails until they accomplish their goal. If the media curry favor with sasengs, they would eventually reach their goal easily.

However, people are turning their criticism toward saseng fans. Saseng fans might be excited and saying “yes, go and criticize JYJ!’, but, the reality of saseng fans and their evil deeds will become clearer. When people consider what made celebrities to explode, they realize it was the horrific obsession of saseng fans.

“Entertainment Relay” defined saseng fans as ‘hardcore fans who follow celebrity with emotions higher than fans and dig up their private lives.” However, they are not fans but stalkers. The desire of saseng fans trying to bust their stars under the disguise of ‘fan’ is grotesque.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QXbyYQjPbfXtdcRF4Uh9k-2wx_VUHzfbjV80ZnwsRHg/mobilebasic?pli=1

http://jyj3.net/2012/03/11/news-120311-korean-fever-who-is-jyj-and-what-is-the-reason-for-all-the-fascination/

http://www.hancinema.net/kpop-minefield-39852.html

http://jyj3.net/2012/03/11/news-120311-entertainment-relay-mcs-become-pathetic-jokes/

http://jyj3.net/2012/03/11/news-120311-sasaeng-fan-brutality-the-majority-of-opinions-side-with-jyj/




http://tvxq.musicasia.net/k-pop-singers-and-stalker-fans/



http://www.kpopin.com/tag/sasaeng/

next 3 videos are in korean only sadly :(








http://mission4jyj.wordpress.com/2011/07/30/respect-jyj-campaign-part-iii-what-do-jyj-say-%E2%80%93-the-torment-jyj-had-to-endure/

http://jyj3.net/2012/03/08/news-120308-jyj-assault-controversy-kim-jaejoongs-official-apology-even-in-extreme-situations-i-will-be-more-responsible/

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gb8a81

http://www.xltweet.com/show/?id=53535A5E5C41

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/gb2c3o



http://jyj3.net/2012/03/08/twitter-120308-jaejoongs-sister-twitter-update/



http://dbskthoughts.tumblr.com/

http://prontus.cooperativa.cl/fotos-el-grupo-de-pop-coreano-jyj-llego-a-chile/prontus_nots/2012-03-08/152707_16.html

http://jyj3.net/2012/03/06/trans-120306-dissecting-jyjs-sasaeng-fans-the-horrific-fandom-that-even-gives-goose-bumps/

http://www.soompi.com/news/list-of-crazy-actions-done-by-jyjs-sasaeng-fans-scare-netizens

http://thejyjfiles.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/trans-120306-blue-houses-destruction-of-evidence-of-an-illegal-investigation-of-civilians-was-buried-under-the-report-about-jyj-assault-controversy-in-yellow-press/