Article 1.
All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 4.
No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.
Article 5.
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.
Article 6.
Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.
Article 7.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 8.
Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.
Article 9.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
Article 10.
Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.
Article 11.
(1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.
(2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offense on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
(2) Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
Article 14.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 15.
(1) Everyone has the right to a nationality.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality nor denied the right to change his nationality.
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 17.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
Article 18.
Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Article 19.
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 21.
(1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
(2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
(3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.
Article 22.
Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
(2) Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.
(3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
(4) Everyone has the right to form and to join trade unions for the protection of his interests.
Article 24.
Everyone has the right to rest and leisure, including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay.
Article 25.
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
(2) Motherhood and childhood are entitled to special care and assistance. All children, whether born in or out of wedlock, shall enjoy the same social protection.
Article 26.
(1) Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.
(2) Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.
(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.
Article 27.
(1) Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.
(2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author.
Article 28.
Everyone is entitled to a social and international order in which the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration can be fully realized.
Article 29.
(1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
(2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
(3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Article 30.
Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.
I have made some of these rights Bold and Italic my reason for that is the fact that these are rights Korean entertainers have had abused.
Sasaengs are guilty of breaking many of these laws but they are not the only ones Company CEO's, Broadcasting companies and the Korean government themselves. You can come sue me for slander if you like you won't get much I am on social assistance and you would have to prove what I am saying is false.
Koreans use their entertainers as scape goats but do not punish those in the public eye like sasaengs and private taxi drivers. The also do not do enough in their school systems to protect their students as so many get bullied in school , or are bullies in school and so many in a result of bullying kill themselves.
Some may wonder why the marriage one was highlighted and that is due to something not only involving an entertainer I like who had been fooled into signing a marriage license but also due to the fact that sasaengs have been known to try and steal personal seals to forge marriage documents I believe DBSK's sasaengs are the ones linked to this action.
They have exiled someone for moving to the USA though he was suppose to go into the military and it just wasn't something he was passionate about. Who wants dispassionate people protecting their country not that they would be protecting your country anyways in the long run. Let's face it some people just aren't geared for that life style. Also I do not believe they went to court but just exiled him like that .
my favorite funny man Hong Dong ahjusshi was made to be a criminal for owing back taxes that happens to the best of us normally we just pay it back and it's all good . Sadly that wasn't the case for my favorite Ahjusshi instead he has had to retire has lost credibility was purposely denied a chance to win an award in my opinion was rightfully his to win. The entertainment world has lost something special with him not being part of it.
SME is Extremely Guilty of breaking no less than 2 of these laws it's a known fact that artists under SME have very little rest or leisure, do not get paid the same amount of money , and have not had certain living comforts . one member of Super Junior didn't even have a bed for a long time and if I am not mistaking only got a bed because of fans. They have also been blocking JYJ from being able to perform in Korea.
I could go on with more things and I will definitely post more articles and the likes though up to now I believe I have posted more than enough things to prove just how much these laws have been broken.
Saturday, September 15, 2012
2 blogs mine & hers
http://ethlenn.blogspot.ca/2012/05/come-to-fandom-they-said.html
I read this blog and really liked it I now follow it
I will copy and paste things from her blog with my opinions as well as most I agree with and some I agree a little less first things first the photo on her blog . hers will always be in " " where as mine wont.
I agree with this whole heartedly hardcore fangirls are like soldiers armed with venomous fangless mouths that tear into you trying to tear you to shards for the sole fact that you do not follow their belief system and dare to have a mind of your own with your own set of morals and values that oppose their own .
"I don’t want to complain about the center of all fandoms, I’m not going to argue whether this-or-that music is good or bad. Because, ultimately, it’s the music, right? I truly enjoy some Kpop bands/singers.
What I loathe is their fandoms."
so far I'm all on board I cannot deny there have been alot of good things to come out of fandoms. However I feel much bad has come so much in fact that it overshadows the good.
"Nowadays, it’s really hard to stay beyond the fandom, especially when a person is connected to social media (be it twitter, fora, tumblr, blogs, facebook etc.) and bombarded by all kinds of information from around. Of course some do that, but they don’t belong to “fans” world. They like to listen to this-or-this song, but it doesn’t make anyone a fan. I like to listen to Panjabi once every 5 months, but that doesn’t make me a fan of Hindu music (au contraire, India culture scares me with its unhinged vitality-destruction violent circle). I’m talking about being a fan as a part of the fandom – that is: knowing about the albums, tours, interviews etc. The hideous and sick subgenre to fans is sasaeng group, but I wrote about them so many times already so that I won’t sacrifice the space here and now."
tsk tsk now this is where I start to disagree not with the fact that it is hard to stay beyond the fandom let's face it KPOP is everywhere! and honestly I like it that way. I do not think you have to know everything about a group, love everything about a group, buy everything about a group in order to be a fan. I listen to a wide selection of Asian music Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Malaysian & Indonesian I do not know anything about many of the singers or bands and do not attempt to find much out but I am a fan of their music. I love the way Chinese music sounds a lot of it has a very soothing effect on me. I am a fan of the genre itself not so much of the artists though I am Definitely a fan of some groups. Just because it may not be my first choice does not mean I am not a fan of it my passion towards it just isn't as overwhelming as it is towards something else.
I am not in a fandom at least I do not consider myself to be I am a freelance fan. I know about group tours I just do not pay attention to them mainly since it's a rare thing to hear they are in Montreal besides the fact that although I love the groups concerts aren't much in my comfort zone since I do not always do well in large massive groups of pushy loud people. I read or watch the interviews, save as many pictures as I can of groups I really enjoy or find aesthetically pleasing. I buy the albums as well but I do not always know everything about the albums off the top of my head. There are groups I really love listening to but I have no idea how many cds they have or all the names of them I am just not that passionate just having access to their songs is good enough for me.
"I was suppressing my anger for a long, long time, since, truth be told, I was never a real part of any fandom (a short and painful encounter with Cassies doesn’t count). Ever since Infinite, this became an integrated part of my life and daily routine – checking the official website, having subbing teams’ websites bookmarked, and of course listening to the music, watching shows etc. I like it. It’s the fandom I started to hate."
so far I can follow this I am not even that dedicated sadly but I have to admit with Super Junior I was very active in finding the shows they were on subbed in english and going to fan forums and the likes.
"I learned about OTP in a crude way – by stepping on some fragment of a fanfic. "
"fandoms took OTP (One True Pairing) into a new level, and yet not the higher one. Fangirls (age 8 – 20) are sure band members are fucking. They are even surer of that than of sun rising on the east the next day. If band members display the affection towards each other – it’s a proof they’re having sex 265 times a day. If they don’t – it means they have “silent days” in their ‘marriage’".So they ship, yes ship (I don't know why a ship) some OTP and - and this is good part - if 1/2 of this OTP starts to, I dunno, talk with another member, a hell breaks loose. Fangirls hate it, write letters, cut themselves, armageddon!! Instead of shrugging it because normal people talk to others, especially in a closed group. It's hard NOT to talk, stand close each other sometimes."
I definitely have to admit that some really have taken things a little too far but I think it's safe to say the age range is actually higher since there have been sasaengs and devoted fans in their 30s for that matter if I was Korean or Chinese I would be 30 following the lunar calendar of age. Most of us know it's all fake but we just live in the fantasy it's not like we really wish for it or want it to happen it's true however some take things to extremes.
"When I was younger, you know, we fangirls dreamed about snatching the guy to ourselves. We imagined our dream dates, and we KNEW those were just an empty talk. A dream to make our days brighter, fluffier and nicer. When we watched Kylie and Jason’s Especially for You MV, we were envious of Kylie. We wanted to be in her place (it’s a fangirl thing, you won’t understand).
Nowadays, fangirls dream of group members to snatch each other, marry and adopt some kids. This is nothing against gay rights, just to clarify things. So fangirls get high by imagining their idol is not with them (as a usual, normal fangirl would do) but with another guy from the band. What’s the purpose of this? “If he can’t be with me, let him be with a band mate?” What the f*ck is this logic? Heck, even crazy fangirls of Guns’n’Roses didn’t want see their guys one on another, you know. I find it disturbing and disgusting. It doesn’t show an ounce of admiration to your “idol” at all. It doesn’t show your appreciation of their talent. And as my friend V. said – it’s partially the agency’s fault as well. People from there know exactly about those idiotic OTPs that fangirls create and they pair the members like that for a photoshoot. But don’t blame the members when they start to flair up about the oppressive fandom (it has already begun and I wonder how that will go).
I don’t have to add that the most ruined image has SuJu, right? According to fans (they even change wikipedia from time to time, writing “husband to…”, “wife of…” there, seriously), all in SJ screwed each other. No virgins."
Once again I wont and can't generalize because I know many people are still fangirls in the way I am and how I used to be just like this girl was. I cannot however deny that I have shipped pairs in groups. it has mainly been in fun, I do not wish them to be together though if there is something real between them I hope they will be together. I am a yaoi lover but I am a full time yaoi lover, I watch the themed movies and all. I daydream about them sweeping me away but I am not adverse to them sweeping each other away either I mean who could deny love? I know many girls who day dream of their bias but who also ship him with someone.I have a friend who is in love with FTIslands Seunghyun but she still supports the thought of SeungJae because Jaejin and him have a special friendship a brotherhood but she doesn't really want him to be with him she wants him for herself. I think we sometimes think if I have to share my bias with someone I would rather it be with someone I know loves him and who loves him more than me? well his bandmate. I admit it's odd but hey no one is perfect. There are many idols who really do not care about that kind of things no matter what fans end up think as she mentioned there are so many pairs in Suju due to the large number of members. They do not care if the fans think dirty things of them as long as they continue to support them in anyways possible at the end of the day sex sells and if the fans think they are together and are willing to support them buy spending money on their albums and merchandise well all the better for it. Some fangirls really are extreme and need some help there was never any doubts about it but I refuse to generalize because there are a lot of fans out there who have perfectly healthy mentalities.
"Very recent about another fandom, namely Inspirits. For a year I thought it’s one of the friendliest, sanest fandoms in Kpop world. Latest alevin of fangirls brought some bad blood with it and they distort this used to be nice fandom. We, older Inspirits, love all 7. We may have our favorite (usually more than one, cause it’s a really hard task to stick with just one in this group, I have 3) but we support all of them. New piece-of-carps are distorting it. They have one and only one, but they don’t stop at this – they bash others. The main war is between two main vocals’ fan girls. The reason? Sit, because this is beyond ridiculous – the number of lines, the screen time. I mean… o---key. When did they run from the mental facility? Because such person has to be a deranged lunatic to argue about those thing. It affects the whole fandom, and it makes us look bad. I wrote replies to one of my tumblr friends’ posts who wanted to explain as calmly and reasonably as she could that such war is pointless and ludicrous. But I doubt 13-years-olds would understand half of the words of her posts, so it may be written in vain. But it has to be done nonetheless. Fine, I admit, it was Wuhyeon’s voice who caught my attention at first, and he still is my greasy cutie, but the award for the best voice in this group goes to Seonggyu, I’m so sorry. Now, butt hurt fan girls, you can track me and sue me, I don’t really care. Fighting over such nonsense thing is an absurd. It’s tiring and it’s ugly. Plus, our little fandom lately has been cracking and vanishing. Why? All because as I wrote in Infinitize review – fans wanted boys’ new album to sound like everything else in Kpop. They wanted to get another EXO album. Oh, I’m sorry idiots, Woolliment is not SMEnt, if you haven’t noticed. Thanks to the all gods, old, new and forgotten for that! Don’t try to reason that SMEnt has a good music. It has catchy music, but catchy doesn't mean good music. In fangirlish: catchy=/=good. Except for some, all filler songs on DBSK albums are boring. Deal with that. SHINee has generic music, beaten only by that of SuJu (I don’t count girls groups cause they’re all carp, ALL). I don’t understand war among fandoms, but war inside of one fandom is just beyond my capability of understanding. It’s just not right."
I think most of us can agree that these kind of wars are pointless and they happen in far too many fandoms to count. This happens in girl groups as much as boy groups and I do not share her view on girl groups because I happen to be a fan of numerous ones.I do have to agree with the fact that so many kpop songs sound alike and there needs to be some improvement. The music is all still good to me but sometimes I really can't tell the difference between groups. I think catchy is good because I good song is often that though at the same time there are some songs I dislike and I dislike them more because they are catchy so even if I do not like it I end up singing it anyways. This person apparently has her own idea on what good music is to her and I respect that she's allowed her opinion but I happen to enjoy a lot of groups in SME I just dislike the company not its artists. I must agree War between fandoms is something I shake my head at and roll my eyes over but within it's own fandom is so much worse like the JYJ fandom they do not even realize they are tearing the fandom apart and doing no favors to the men who all love each other and value their brotherhood. Fandom wars are pointless and disgusting.
"Does this make me give up on K-music? No, because I came here for music, not for fandom."
I agree with that 100%
I read this blog and really liked it I now follow it
I will copy and paste things from her blog with my opinions as well as most I agree with and some I agree a little less first things first the photo on her blog . hers will always be in " " where as mine wont.
I agree with this whole heartedly hardcore fangirls are like soldiers armed with venomous fangless mouths that tear into you trying to tear you to shards for the sole fact that you do not follow their belief system and dare to have a mind of your own with your own set of morals and values that oppose their own .
"I don’t want to complain about the center of all fandoms, I’m not going to argue whether this-or-that music is good or bad. Because, ultimately, it’s the music, right? I truly enjoy some Kpop bands/singers.
What I loathe is their fandoms."
so far I'm all on board I cannot deny there have been alot of good things to come out of fandoms. However I feel much bad has come so much in fact that it overshadows the good.
"Nowadays, it’s really hard to stay beyond the fandom, especially when a person is connected to social media (be it twitter, fora, tumblr, blogs, facebook etc.) and bombarded by all kinds of information from around. Of course some do that, but they don’t belong to “fans” world. They like to listen to this-or-this song, but it doesn’t make anyone a fan. I like to listen to Panjabi once every 5 months, but that doesn’t make me a fan of Hindu music (au contraire, India culture scares me with its unhinged vitality-destruction violent circle). I’m talking about being a fan as a part of the fandom – that is: knowing about the albums, tours, interviews etc. The hideous and sick subgenre to fans is sasaeng group, but I wrote about them so many times already so that I won’t sacrifice the space here and now."
tsk tsk now this is where I start to disagree not with the fact that it is hard to stay beyond the fandom let's face it KPOP is everywhere! and honestly I like it that way. I do not think you have to know everything about a group, love everything about a group, buy everything about a group in order to be a fan. I listen to a wide selection of Asian music Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Malaysian & Indonesian I do not know anything about many of the singers or bands and do not attempt to find much out but I am a fan of their music. I love the way Chinese music sounds a lot of it has a very soothing effect on me. I am a fan of the genre itself not so much of the artists though I am Definitely a fan of some groups. Just because it may not be my first choice does not mean I am not a fan of it my passion towards it just isn't as overwhelming as it is towards something else.
I am not in a fandom at least I do not consider myself to be I am a freelance fan. I know about group tours I just do not pay attention to them mainly since it's a rare thing to hear they are in Montreal besides the fact that although I love the groups concerts aren't much in my comfort zone since I do not always do well in large massive groups of pushy loud people. I read or watch the interviews, save as many pictures as I can of groups I really enjoy or find aesthetically pleasing. I buy the albums as well but I do not always know everything about the albums off the top of my head. There are groups I really love listening to but I have no idea how many cds they have or all the names of them I am just not that passionate just having access to their songs is good enough for me.
"I was suppressing my anger for a long, long time, since, truth be told, I was never a real part of any fandom (a short and painful encounter with Cassies doesn’t count). Ever since Infinite, this became an integrated part of my life and daily routine – checking the official website, having subbing teams’ websites bookmarked, and of course listening to the music, watching shows etc. I like it. It’s the fandom I started to hate."
so far I can follow this I am not even that dedicated sadly but I have to admit with Super Junior I was very active in finding the shows they were on subbed in english and going to fan forums and the likes.
"I learned about OTP in a crude way – by stepping on some fragment of a fanfic. "
"fandoms took OTP (One True Pairing) into a new level, and yet not the higher one. Fangirls (age 8 – 20) are sure band members are fucking. They are even surer of that than of sun rising on the east the next day. If band members display the affection towards each other – it’s a proof they’re having sex 265 times a day. If they don’t – it means they have “silent days” in their ‘marriage’".So they ship, yes ship (I don't know why a ship) some OTP and - and this is good part - if 1/2 of this OTP starts to, I dunno, talk with another member, a hell breaks loose. Fangirls hate it, write letters, cut themselves, armageddon!! Instead of shrugging it because normal people talk to others, especially in a closed group. It's hard NOT to talk, stand close each other sometimes."
I definitely have to admit that some really have taken things a little too far but I think it's safe to say the age range is actually higher since there have been sasaengs and devoted fans in their 30s for that matter if I was Korean or Chinese I would be 30 following the lunar calendar of age. Most of us know it's all fake but we just live in the fantasy it's not like we really wish for it or want it to happen it's true however some take things to extremes.
"When I was younger, you know, we fangirls dreamed about snatching the guy to ourselves. We imagined our dream dates, and we KNEW those were just an empty talk. A dream to make our days brighter, fluffier and nicer. When we watched Kylie and Jason’s Especially for You MV, we were envious of Kylie. We wanted to be in her place (it’s a fangirl thing, you won’t understand).
Nowadays, fangirls dream of group members to snatch each other, marry and adopt some kids. This is nothing against gay rights, just to clarify things. So fangirls get high by imagining their idol is not with them (as a usual, normal fangirl would do) but with another guy from the band. What’s the purpose of this? “If he can’t be with me, let him be with a band mate?” What the f*ck is this logic? Heck, even crazy fangirls of Guns’n’Roses didn’t want see their guys one on another, you know. I find it disturbing and disgusting. It doesn’t show an ounce of admiration to your “idol” at all. It doesn’t show your appreciation of their talent. And as my friend V. said – it’s partially the agency’s fault as well. People from there know exactly about those idiotic OTPs that fangirls create and they pair the members like that for a photoshoot. But don’t blame the members when they start to flair up about the oppressive fandom (it has already begun and I wonder how that will go).
I don’t have to add that the most ruined image has SuJu, right? According to fans (they even change wikipedia from time to time, writing “husband to…”, “wife of…” there, seriously), all in SJ screwed each other. No virgins."
Once again I wont and can't generalize because I know many people are still fangirls in the way I am and how I used to be just like this girl was. I cannot however deny that I have shipped pairs in groups. it has mainly been in fun, I do not wish them to be together though if there is something real between them I hope they will be together. I am a yaoi lover but I am a full time yaoi lover, I watch the themed movies and all. I daydream about them sweeping me away but I am not adverse to them sweeping each other away either I mean who could deny love? I know many girls who day dream of their bias but who also ship him with someone.I have a friend who is in love with FTIslands Seunghyun but she still supports the thought of SeungJae because Jaejin and him have a special friendship a brotherhood but she doesn't really want him to be with him she wants him for herself. I think we sometimes think if I have to share my bias with someone I would rather it be with someone I know loves him and who loves him more than me? well his bandmate. I admit it's odd but hey no one is perfect. There are many idols who really do not care about that kind of things no matter what fans end up think as she mentioned there are so many pairs in Suju due to the large number of members. They do not care if the fans think dirty things of them as long as they continue to support them in anyways possible at the end of the day sex sells and if the fans think they are together and are willing to support them buy spending money on their albums and merchandise well all the better for it. Some fangirls really are extreme and need some help there was never any doubts about it but I refuse to generalize because there are a lot of fans out there who have perfectly healthy mentalities.
"Very recent about another fandom, namely Inspirits. For a year I thought it’s one of the friendliest, sanest fandoms in Kpop world. Latest alevin of fangirls brought some bad blood with it and they distort this used to be nice fandom. We, older Inspirits, love all 7. We may have our favorite (usually more than one, cause it’s a really hard task to stick with just one in this group, I have 3) but we support all of them. New piece-of-carps are distorting it. They have one and only one, but they don’t stop at this – they bash others. The main war is between two main vocals’ fan girls. The reason? Sit, because this is beyond ridiculous – the number of lines, the screen time. I mean… o---key. When did they run from the mental facility? Because such person has to be a deranged lunatic to argue about those thing. It affects the whole fandom, and it makes us look bad. I wrote replies to one of my tumblr friends’ posts who wanted to explain as calmly and reasonably as she could that such war is pointless and ludicrous. But I doubt 13-years-olds would understand half of the words of her posts, so it may be written in vain. But it has to be done nonetheless. Fine, I admit, it was Wuhyeon’s voice who caught my attention at first, and he still is my greasy cutie, but the award for the best voice in this group goes to Seonggyu, I’m so sorry. Now, butt hurt fan girls, you can track me and sue me, I don’t really care. Fighting over such nonsense thing is an absurd. It’s tiring and it’s ugly. Plus, our little fandom lately has been cracking and vanishing. Why? All because as I wrote in Infinitize review – fans wanted boys’ new album to sound like everything else in Kpop. They wanted to get another EXO album. Oh, I’m sorry idiots, Woolliment is not SMEnt, if you haven’t noticed. Thanks to the all gods, old, new and forgotten for that! Don’t try to reason that SMEnt has a good music. It has catchy music, but catchy doesn't mean good music. In fangirlish: catchy=/=good. Except for some, all filler songs on DBSK albums are boring. Deal with that. SHINee has generic music, beaten only by that of SuJu (I don’t count girls groups cause they’re all carp, ALL). I don’t understand war among fandoms, but war inside of one fandom is just beyond my capability of understanding. It’s just not right."
I think most of us can agree that these kind of wars are pointless and they happen in far too many fandoms to count. This happens in girl groups as much as boy groups and I do not share her view on girl groups because I happen to be a fan of numerous ones.I do have to agree with the fact that so many kpop songs sound alike and there needs to be some improvement. The music is all still good to me but sometimes I really can't tell the difference between groups. I think catchy is good because I good song is often that though at the same time there are some songs I dislike and I dislike them more because they are catchy so even if I do not like it I end up singing it anyways. This person apparently has her own idea on what good music is to her and I respect that she's allowed her opinion but I happen to enjoy a lot of groups in SME I just dislike the company not its artists. I must agree War between fandoms is something I shake my head at and roll my eyes over but within it's own fandom is so much worse like the JYJ fandom they do not even realize they are tearing the fandom apart and doing no favors to the men who all love each other and value their brotherhood. Fandom wars are pointless and disgusting.
"Does this make me give up on K-music? No, because I came here for music, not for fandom."
I agree with that 100%
Thursday, September 13, 2012
have they lost their crowns and tiaras?
so many tabloids have fed the world fables and many of them have been taken at face value however not all have.
AllKPop is a very popular website to get your kpop news and it would seem unfounded rumors and gossip. AKP is not the only site to circulate half truths and fabrications however but it is the one in my opinion that fans the fires fueling the spark into a wild fire.
There are people who tell readers to not lay blame on AKP that they merely translate news from a tabloid. I cannot agree with the statement because it's more then just spreading the trash the tabloids have thrown to waste. Once you are posting articles about "What is Your Opinion ?" and "Truth Or Not" "Yes or No do You believe it?" you are given way to more controversy you are setting up a battle ground for Fan wars. You are encouraging net trolls and Anti fan scum and giving them a playground to sow their seeds of disgusting behaviors and unjustified hate.
T-ara is still wildly hated for a what has been proven to some extent to be mass lies, that is not to say some bullying has not gone on. The CEO has guaranteed the existence of it by the methods in which he employed to not only use the group but to make the group more famous.
The smart thing to do is to encourage a change in the whole Korean system . Punish all punishable acts not just in those who are suppose to be role models but in ordinary everyday folk as well. Bullying is a big issue why are you not doing anything? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? get courses in schools relating to violence get non profit organizations set up that help your youth. Korea apparently has the highest rate of suicides why is that? and what do you plan to do about it? do not just harp on about what Idols are doing do something about what is being done to them!
Today I went on to facebook only to find out there has been a sex scandal involving a member of big bang. Personally I do not find anything wrong with what occurred in his private life in the privacy of his own rooms. What I DO have a problem with is people put him on the chopping block using a photo that if it should be him violates his rights. He is in a state of undress unaware of the photo being taken has not consented to having the photo taken and his name is being dragged through the dirt which is slander! The photo looks like just another sasaeng stalker photo which is very common hell not that long ago the members luggage was stolen in japan so who is to say that is not just another case of sasaeng activities or even anti fan behavior.
Acting the way she has the girl has painted herself as a whore to some sleeping with him and then photographing him and telling personal sexual things involving him. There is a saying that should hold true A lady never kiss and tells. Also if it were true what the hell are you thinking not protecting yourself by safe sex! The woman must not care about herself at all to say all she ha, she painted a much unflattering picture of herself never mind of him.
I have so much to say but really just can't find the right words to express myself at this point.
Black Oceans is another topic I have been seeing often and my opinion on that is that if you go to a concert you should encourage all that are there if you are there only to cheer one group fine but there is no need to be an ass. These artists work hard it's rude to disrespect them if you truly dislike a group that is there don't go to that damn concert instead of being rude and calling for them to get off stage and being jerks. Someone stated there are groups who do not have any colours that is true there are but they are still cheered for and people still encourage them or sing along. they will still shine their light sticks it's not always about the colour showing it's about the support. Artists work hard to try and bring good music and entertainment to the world . I find it ironic so many people demand respect but have no idea how to give it themselves.
Regardless of all the rumors and even some disturbing truths these idols have not lost the crowns a top their heads. T-ara still maintains a certain amount of popularity regardless of haters trying to bring them down. Seungri will still be a heart throb females will still swoon over him and feel jealous of the woman he apparently choked out wishing it were their necks his hands clutched and their bellies his jizz landed on."Oppa hand me a towel too this way I can keep it as a reminder of our time together" the crazy ones would say. Nickkhun is still supported and missed and loved I waited patiently for his return to where I can gaze at him in open admiration. All those other idols who have been stabbed with thorns in their sides and had monkeys clinging to their backs Hwaiting! you can do it! Sasaengs and sleazy reporters go bump in the night but true fans shine a light so bright the darkness loses it's hold on our beloved entertainers.
AllKPop is a very popular website to get your kpop news and it would seem unfounded rumors and gossip. AKP is not the only site to circulate half truths and fabrications however but it is the one in my opinion that fans the fires fueling the spark into a wild fire.
There are people who tell readers to not lay blame on AKP that they merely translate news from a tabloid. I cannot agree with the statement because it's more then just spreading the trash the tabloids have thrown to waste. Once you are posting articles about "What is Your Opinion ?" and "Truth Or Not" "Yes or No do You believe it?" you are given way to more controversy you are setting up a battle ground for Fan wars. You are encouraging net trolls and Anti fan scum and giving them a playground to sow their seeds of disgusting behaviors and unjustified hate.
T-ara is still wildly hated for a what has been proven to some extent to be mass lies, that is not to say some bullying has not gone on. The CEO has guaranteed the existence of it by the methods in which he employed to not only use the group but to make the group more famous.
The smart thing to do is to encourage a change in the whole Korean system . Punish all punishable acts not just in those who are suppose to be role models but in ordinary everyday folk as well. Bullying is a big issue why are you not doing anything? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? get courses in schools relating to violence get non profit organizations set up that help your youth. Korea apparently has the highest rate of suicides why is that? and what do you plan to do about it? do not just harp on about what Idols are doing do something about what is being done to them!
Today I went on to facebook only to find out there has been a sex scandal involving a member of big bang. Personally I do not find anything wrong with what occurred in his private life in the privacy of his own rooms. What I DO have a problem with is people put him on the chopping block using a photo that if it should be him violates his rights. He is in a state of undress unaware of the photo being taken has not consented to having the photo taken and his name is being dragged through the dirt which is slander! The photo looks like just another sasaeng stalker photo which is very common hell not that long ago the members luggage was stolen in japan so who is to say that is not just another case of sasaeng activities or even anti fan behavior.
Acting the way she has the girl has painted herself as a whore to some sleeping with him and then photographing him and telling personal sexual things involving him. There is a saying that should hold true A lady never kiss and tells. Also if it were true what the hell are you thinking not protecting yourself by safe sex! The woman must not care about herself at all to say all she ha, she painted a much unflattering picture of herself never mind of him.
I have so much to say but really just can't find the right words to express myself at this point.
Black Oceans is another topic I have been seeing often and my opinion on that is that if you go to a concert you should encourage all that are there if you are there only to cheer one group fine but there is no need to be an ass. These artists work hard it's rude to disrespect them if you truly dislike a group that is there don't go to that damn concert instead of being rude and calling for them to get off stage and being jerks. Someone stated there are groups who do not have any colours that is true there are but they are still cheered for and people still encourage them or sing along. they will still shine their light sticks it's not always about the colour showing it's about the support. Artists work hard to try and bring good music and entertainment to the world . I find it ironic so many people demand respect but have no idea how to give it themselves.
Regardless of all the rumors and even some disturbing truths these idols have not lost the crowns a top their heads. T-ara still maintains a certain amount of popularity regardless of haters trying to bring them down. Seungri will still be a heart throb females will still swoon over him and feel jealous of the woman he apparently choked out wishing it were their necks his hands clutched and their bellies his jizz landed on."Oppa hand me a towel too this way I can keep it as a reminder of our time together" the crazy ones would say. Nickkhun is still supported and missed and loved I waited patiently for his return to where I can gaze at him in open admiration. All those other idols who have been stabbed with thorns in their sides and had monkeys clinging to their backs Hwaiting! you can do it! Sasaengs and sleazy reporters go bump in the night but true fans shine a light so bright the darkness loses it's hold on our beloved entertainers.
Thursday, August 30, 2012
Anti-Sasaengs
so we already knew that the two existed Anti's who are as bad as sasaengs and sasaengs who might as well be anti's. Now I find out that low and behold there are Sasaengs that are Anti's and Anti's that are sasaengs in otherwords haters who stalk the idols they hate.
Super Junior and JYJ/TVXQ are known to have as many anti's as fans and sasaengs recently someone showed me this Korean website, this article talks all about Super Junior and their anti fan stalkers. http://star.mk.co.kr/v2/view.php?sc=40900002&cm=%BE%C6%C0%CC%B5%B9+%BC%D2%BD%C4&year=2012&no=155042&selFlag&relatedcode&category=home
the article basically states how the people went into the home of Super Junior and left obscene and abusive messages in their home, leaving graffiti all over. And as well as in the JYJ/TVXQ case left under wear or shared their phone numbers online and posted everything they did proudly on the internet for all to see. They themselves leaving the proof of their law breaking.
Here is another Tumblr which shows more of the same only this time the writing is in english. http://kekaru.tumblr.com/post/30473656232/janie6789-super-juniors-dealing-with
(taken from the above link) Super Junior’s dealing with Anti-Sasaengs [Part 1 of 5]
While sasaeng fans are becoming the issue for other groups, Suer Junior has had to deal with persistent anti-sasaeng fans.
These anti-saseng fans have been active from 2006 until recently, and unlike regular anti-fans, they have somehow found out Super Junior’s own dorm password and have broken into their dorm, putting graffiti of swear words around the dorm and even hanging a woman’s underwear on the door. They are known as “sasaeng anti-fans”.
On top of this, they have also found out the members’ phone numbers and swear after calling them, or spreading their phone number on the internet. Furthermore, they covered their mini-hompys with language.
And instead of them being ashamed of their actions, they post their misdeeds on their cyworld, shocking greatly.
I have a cyworld account though I barely find time to go on it these days and I have to admit I have searched while doing my research and have not found anything however when on Naver I have found normal Sasaeng stalker diaries.
part 2 Super Junior has suffered from these so-called ‘anti-sasaeng’ fans for years. This is the way that Sungmin dealt with his.
He had an online chat with his anti-sasaeng, the transcript of which was posted on the anti-sasaeng’s cyworld. The translated version is posted below: *the korean writing the looks like a back wards F is laughter*
Lee Sungmin says: What do you mean by Mongol? [T/N: This was used by the anti as an insult to Sungmin]
Goo Seulah says: Mongolia is a northern nation.
Lee Sungmin says: So?
Lee Sungmin says: Why are you suddenly talking about Mongols?
Goo Seulah says: Because my 2nd language was Mongolian
Goo Seulah says: Let’s love Mongols
Lee Sungmin says: Ah
Lee Sungmin says: I see
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: I’m kidding
Lee Sungmin says: My 2nd language was Japanese
Lee Sungmin says: So I really like Japanese ~
Goo Seulah says: Mine was Arabic
Lee Sungmin says: Arabic sounds fun too.. ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: It was actually Chinese
Lee Sungmin says: Thai is really hard..
Goo Seulah says: So oppa you were reading ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So you’re someone I can’t believe, right?
Goo Seulah says: Hul [T/N: Sound of shock]
Goo Seulah says: Believe me….
Goo Seulah says: When I say I fell in love with you at first sight..
Lee Sungmin says: You’re joking with me again?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: Oppa
Lee Sungmin says: Since we started this conversation
Goo Seulah says: How are you doing nowadays
Lee Sungmin says: How many times have you lied to me already~^^ How can I believe you ~
Goo Seulah says: I won’t anymore
Lee Sungmin says: ^^
Lee Sungmin says: Now just stay at home
Lee Sungmin says: And watch dramas
Lee Sungmin says: And study
Goo Seulah says: Buy me something yummy
Goo Seulah says: I’m hungry
Lee Sungmin says: And practice
Lee Sungmin says: You have no food?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: ㅠㅠ
Lee Sungmin says: How about your parents
Goo Seulah says: They went oat [sic]
Goo Seulah says: out
Lee Sungmin says: To work?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: I don’t know ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ???
Lee Sungmin says: So you’re alone at home?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You must be bored…
Goo Seulah says: Play with me
Lee Sungmin says: I have work
Lee Sungmin says: I have to go soon
Goo Seulah says: I see
Lee Sungmin says: Why do you swear at me so much every day?
Goo Seulah says: When
Lee Sungmin says: You do it a lot
Goo Seulah says: Where
Goo Seulah says: ?
Goo Seulah says: Ah terror
Lee Sungmin says: Internet
Goo Seulah says: I’m
Goo Seulah says: Sorry
Lee Sungmin says: You suddenly don’t want to anymore?
Goo Seulah says: No, it’s not that ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I have to study now
Lee Sungmin says: Ah, are you in your 1st year of high school now?
Goo Seulah says: No, 2nd
Lee Sungmin says: I see…
Lee Sungmin says: Where do you live?
Goo Seulah says: ___
Lee Sungmin says: ___ so it’s close to here?
Lee Sungmin says: Whereabouts?
Goo Seulah says: Near ___ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: But why are you laughing ~
Goo Seulah says: Just because
Goo Seulah says: Where Changmin oppa lives
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know where Changmin lives ^^
Goo Seulah says: Anyway, there ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So your school must be near there too?
Lee Sungmin says: Is it past ___?
Goo Seulah says: Oppa you came to ___, right?
Lee Sungmin says: ___? I think I know where it is
Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: You go there?
Goo Seulah says: You came there for School of Rock
Lee Sungmin says: Ah!
Goo Seulah says: I went to ___
Lee Sungmin says: You didn’t go to ___?
Goo Seulah says: I wanted to
Goo Seulah says: But I got placed somewhere weird
Lee Sungmin says: You had to go somewhere further?
Lee Sungmin says: Is it across from ___?
Goo Seulah says: No not there
Lee Sungmin says: Is it ___?
Goo Seulah says: ___ high school
Lee Sungmin says: Where is that?
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know~
Goo Seulah says: You don’t know it
Lee Sungmin says: I only know the school I went to~
Lee Sungmin says: So why do you keep doing terror?
Goo Seulah says: At first I just
Goo Seulah says: Namju and Hayeon
Goo Seulah says: I got to know them
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I started to hang out with them
Goo Seulah says: ;ㅋ;
Goo Seulah says: I met friends whose hearts beat the same way as mine
Lee Sungmin says: And other people’s hearts don’t beat the same way as yours?ㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Lee Sungmin says: So these Namju and Hayeon kids, do they live close?
Goo Seulah says: Namju lives in ____
Goo Seulah says: And Hayeon lives in ___ I think?
Lee Sungmin says: They live far..
Goo Seulah says: Jihyeong unnie lives close ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Kang Jihyeong?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: The kid that keeps doing aegyo to me lately?
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ;
Lee Sungmin says: Why is she suddenly doing that?;;
Lee Sungmin says: I got so surprised
Goo Seulah says: Because she has a lot of aegyo ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Is that it?
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;
Lee Sungmin says: You don’t have any [T/N: aegyo]?
Goo Seulah says: I have a lot
Goo Seulah says: It’s serious
Goo Seulah says: Aingg
Lee Sungmin says: It’s serious.. all right..
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ;
Lee Sungmin says: Your name is Goo Seulah?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋ Why?
Goo Seulah says: You thought it was a fake name?
Lee Sungmin says: You just had a lot of names
Lee Sungmin says: I wasn’t sure which was which
Goo Seulah says: No I didn’t?
Lee Sungmin says: I only knew you as Gae Sungmin~ [T/N: ‘gae’ means ‘dog’, having similar connotations as to ‘son of a bitch’ in English. It is this anti-fan’s screen name]
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Why are you adding ‘gae’ to your own name ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Why is that my name?
Goo Seulah says: It’s Sungmin
Lee Sungmin says: That’s your name~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: ㅎㅎ
Lee Sungmin says: I’ve never thought that was my name.
Goo Seulah says: Congratulations
Lee Sungmin says: for what?
Goo Seulah says: Never mindㅋㅋㅋ
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Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Goo Seulah says: Never mindㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Have you ever followed me in a taxi and things like that too?
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Goo Seulah says: That wasn’t us..
Lee Sungmin says: That’s what I thought
Lee Sungmin says: Someone pretended she was you
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Lee Sungmin says: And followed me
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Goo Seulah says: -_-
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know
Goo Seulah says: She said she was Gae Sungmin?
Lee Sungmin says: She didn’t say specifically that she was Gae Sungmin but
Lee Sungmin says: But anyway
Goo Seulah says: Anyway that wasn’t me
Goo Seulah says: I don’t do things like that
Lee Sungmin says: I know ~
Goo Seulah says: I study
Lee Sungmin says: Who put graffiti on the door?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Just with the other kids
Goo Seulah says: We went and ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: What was with the underwear?
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: That wasn’t me
Goo Seulah says: Gae Kyuhyun
Lee Sungmin says: It said Gae Sungmin~
Goo Seulah says: I went with Gae Kyuhyun
Lee Sungmin says: With a detailed picture and everything
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So kindly
Goo Seulah says: Oppa your door was unlocked
Lee Sungmin says: You hung it up for the next door neighbour to use ~
Lee Sungmin says: It was unlocked?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: The door must be broken
Goo Seulah says: No, it wasn’t shut all the way
Lee Sungmin says: Oh damn it~ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You’ve come inside?
Goo Seulah says: Not me
Goo Seulah says: I was outside
Goo Seulah says: Keeping watch ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Goo Seulah says: Because that’s breaking and entering
Lee Sungmin says: You seem like you’d be best at something like that
Goo Seulah says: I was going to run if someone came
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Even between the members, you’re most famous
Lee Sungmin says: No one even knows that there are others [T/N: they had formed a clique of sorts, and there was a ‘Gae’ anti for every member]
Goo Seulah says: I know
Goo Seulah says: Because I’m popular
Goo Seulah says: There are 13 of us for all of you though>?ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I think it’s slightly different from popularity, kid~
Goo Seulah says: Well not now but
Lee Sungmin says: Do you do well at school?
Goo Seulah says: A bit..
Lee Sungmin says: Ohh~
Goo Seulah says: I have to do what I have to firstㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Your words are so good
Lee Sungmin says: Why do your actions differ~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: My actions are right
Goo Seulah says: I’m a good girl
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: I’m so charming
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: I’m so cool
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: Why are you doing that
Lee Sungmin says: Why are YOU doing that
Goo Seulah says: What am I doing??
Lee Sungmin says: Why are you suddenly being like that
Goo Seulah says: Oh yeah when is your next fan signing? ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Next year?
Goo Seulah says: I see
Goo Seulah says: I’ll go to it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You said you weren’t a fan
Goo Seulah says: To see oppa
Lee Sungmin says: No~ It’s okay~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I want to go
Lee Sungmin says: To get my autograph?
Goo Seulah says: Yesㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: On your own?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: With the rest
Lee Sungmin says: Don’t come
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: It’s dangerous ~
Goo Seulah says: Why!!!
Goo Seulah says: I’ll just go with unnie ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Since I’m close with unnie
Lee Sungmin says: Kang Jiyeon?
Goo Seulah says: Kang Jihyeong ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Ah…ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Does Jihyeong swear a lot too?
Goo Seulah says: Only when she’s angryㅋㅋ..
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: She’s a good person
Lee Sungmin says: She looks like it
Lee Sungmin says: You look like a good person too~
Goo Seulah says: No, I look like a bad person
Lee Sungmin says: Most of the time
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I’m really nice
Lee Sungmin says: From what I’ve seen so far
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t agree with you yet
Lee Sungmin says: What did you say to the manager hyung..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Kim Minsung?
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t take the call so I don’t know but
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: It wasn’t Minsung hyung but anyway someone else~ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I was like that to Kim Minsungㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Hyung’s reaction was funny
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: He said you didn’t believe he was our manager
Goo Seulah says: Ah
Goo Seulah says: When I called you?
Lee Sungmin says: You were swearing..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅇㅇ
Goo Seulah says: It was Gaemanager?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You talked to him
Goo Seulah says: Yesㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You said gae again…
Goo Seulah says: That ahjusshi
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh… How will this bad behaviour of yours be fixed?
Goo Seulah says: ;;
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: And you know how you
Lee Sungmin says: Apologized and left me a note
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: That made me laugh out loud~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Lee Sungmin says: I almost fell over laughing
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: When you said you’d buy me dinner when you had time~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: You were happy right
Goo Seulah says: Inside
Lee Sungmin says: Happy?
Lee Sungmin says: I wasn’t sure if it was really an apology…
Goo Seulah says: It was
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t believe you inside~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: It was for real;
Lee Sungmin says: When you said you’d buy me dinner
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t believe you once more~
Goo Seulah says: -.-;
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Can I bring Namju?
Lee Sungmin says: But you were still
Lee Sungmin says: No~
Lee Sungmin says: What if I want to talk to just you?
Goo Seulah says: I can’t bring her?
Lee Sungmin says: No
Goo Seulah says: She has a lot to say
Lee Sungmin says: Again?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: No
Goo Seulah says: Okay I won’t
Goo Seulah says: is telling me to tell me something
Lee Sungmin says: yep~
Goo Seulah says: Why is Lee Minyoung butting in Why is she commenting on my hompy [T/N: Lee Minyoung is Sungmin’s personal friend]
Goo Seulah says: she says
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So why are you commenting on mine?
Goo Seulah says: Oppa but Namju’s really nice ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I’m not sure about that
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t like people who don’t speak nice
Goo Seulah says: She asked me to tell you something else
Goo Seulah says: Can I? ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Wht
Lee Sungmin says: What
Goo Seulah says: But she started swearingㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Just tell me as it is^^
Goo Seulah says: Whether I did or not, I commented on yours, did I ever comment on Lee Minyoung’s? Just tell her to butt out, fuck
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She’s nice?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh..
Goo Seulah says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: She should be careful of her speech..
Goo Seulah says: She speaks like that but she’s really nice;ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You don’t know that~
Lee Sungmin says: For me
Goo Seulah says: Yeah
Lee Sungmin says: That means she can’t control her own emotions~
Lee Sungmin says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: Tsk..
Goo Seulah says: ㅎ;
Lee Sungmin says: If I say this, I’ll seem too old but
Lee Sungmin says: When she gets older
Lee Sungmin says: She’ll be criticized so much everywhere…
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I feel bad when I see something like that..
Goo Seulah says: Namju only does that on the internet
Goo Seulah says: But in reality
Goo Seulah says: She’s a really good person ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: But the fact that she’s like that on the internet means she might be like that in reality~
Goo Seulah says: No
Lee Sungmin says: No?
Goo Seulah says: I’ve known her for 2 years…ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Anyway, she’s not my style~
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t really want to get close to her
Goo Seulah says: You gave her a necklace thoughㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I did?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: Huh?
Goo Seulah says: Minyoung
Lee Sungmin says: When?
Goo Seulah says: When she and Namju met
Goo Seulah says: Minyoung gave her
Goo Seulah says: a necklace saying it was yours
Lee Sungmin says: Namju is
Lee Sungmin says: Haoul? [T/N: One of Namju’s screen names. There was a rumour that Sungmin had planned to name his child Haoul]
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: Ah
Lee Sungmin says: Or is it Hayeon?
Goo Seulah says: Hayeon is someone else
Goo Seulah says: Lee Haoul is Namju
Lee Sungmin says: Ah really?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t talk to her in person so I didn’t know!!
Lee Sungmin says: Darn..
Lee Sungmin says: I was trolled
Goo Seulah says: You thought Hayeon was Haoul?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She does that even after she got the necklace?
Lee Sungmin says: Yeah, I thought she changed her name
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh…
Lee Sungmin says: The disappointment is huge, Namju..
Lee Sungmin says: I really thought
Lee Sungmin says: She changed her ways after talking to Minyoung noona
Lee Sungmin says: Damn it..
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So she came with her mother then?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Goo Seulah says: Why didn’t you come to meet Namju..ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her to speak pretty!
Lee Sungmin says: Because I have work!!!
Lee Sungmin says: I wanted to talk to her in person too~
Goo Seulah says: I was invited to that too..ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I didn’t go thoughㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Is the necklace still doing okay?
Goo Seulah says: Probably ㅋ I didn’t ask
Lee Sungmin says: She didn’t throw it out?
Goo Seulah says: I don’t know, why would sheㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She swore at me so much
Lee Sungmin says: Why wouldn’t I think that way? ^^
Goo Seulah says: She didn’t throw it out
Goo Seulah says: I just asked her
Lee Sungmin says: Okay
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her thank you from me
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her to look at it
Lee Sungmin says: And remember to speak nicely
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You like the sea?
Goo Seulah says: I willㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Lee Sungmin says: You
Goo Seulah says: No I don’t
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: That picture isn’t of the sea?
Goo Seulah says: Ah;
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: That;
Goo Seulah says: I went on a trip with friends
Lee Sungmin says: It must be nice to go on trips with friends~
Goo Seulah says: It was no fun
Lee Sungmin says: I used to go too
Lee Sungmin says: But after I graduated high school
Lee Sungmin says: There wasn’t a lot of time to go
Goo Seulah says: I skipped school to go ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: There are MTs and things in university…
Lee Sungmin says: I skipped school to go too
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I went to Chuncheon
Goo Seulah says: I didn’t want to go to school so ㅎ
Lee Sungmin says: On a train
Goo Seulah says: Me too
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t do those things anymore..
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh..
Goo Seulah says: Why?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I’m jealous of you~
Lee Sungmin says: I want to go on the train
Lee Sungmin says: And go on trips
Lee Sungmin says: I want to enjoy comfortably..
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t
Lee Sungmin says: Because I have something called the company
Goo Seulah says: Why ㅋㅋAh
Lee Sungmin says: And I have managers…
Lee Sungmin says: Anyway, I have work so I have to go~
Lee Sungmin says: Sleep tight~
Goo Seulah says: Already
Goo Seulah says: I’m not sleeping yet
Lee Sungmin says: Ah just
Lee Sungmin says: I’m just saying it in advance
Goo Seulah says: Ahㅋㅋ okay
Lee Sungmin says: There’s not a particularly ending ment either
this made me admire him all the more if it is indeed true.
Super Junior and JYJ/TVXQ are known to have as many anti's as fans and sasaengs recently someone showed me this Korean website, this article talks all about Super Junior and their anti fan stalkers. http://star.mk.co.kr/v2/view.php?sc=40900002&cm=%BE%C6%C0%CC%B5%B9+%BC%D2%BD%C4&year=2012&no=155042&selFlag&relatedcode&category=home
the article basically states how the people went into the home of Super Junior and left obscene and abusive messages in their home, leaving graffiti all over. And as well as in the JYJ/TVXQ case left under wear or shared their phone numbers online and posted everything they did proudly on the internet for all to see. They themselves leaving the proof of their law breaking.
Here is another Tumblr which shows more of the same only this time the writing is in english. http://kekaru.tumblr.com/post/30473656232/janie6789-super-juniors-dealing-with
(taken from the above link) Super Junior’s dealing with Anti-Sasaengs [Part 1 of 5]
While sasaeng fans are becoming the issue for other groups, Suer Junior has had to deal with persistent anti-sasaeng fans.
These anti-saseng fans have been active from 2006 until recently, and unlike regular anti-fans, they have somehow found out Super Junior’s own dorm password and have broken into their dorm, putting graffiti of swear words around the dorm and even hanging a woman’s underwear on the door. They are known as “sasaeng anti-fans”.
On top of this, they have also found out the members’ phone numbers and swear after calling them, or spreading their phone number on the internet. Furthermore, they covered their mini-hompys with language.
And instead of them being ashamed of their actions, they post their misdeeds on their cyworld, shocking greatly.
I have a cyworld account though I barely find time to go on it these days and I have to admit I have searched while doing my research and have not found anything however when on Naver I have found normal Sasaeng stalker diaries.
part 2 Super Junior has suffered from these so-called ‘anti-sasaeng’ fans for years. This is the way that Sungmin dealt with his.
He had an online chat with his anti-sasaeng, the transcript of which was posted on the anti-sasaeng’s cyworld. The translated version is posted below: *the korean writing the looks like a back wards F is laughter*
Lee Sungmin says: What do you mean by Mongol? [T/N: This was used by the anti as an insult to Sungmin]
Goo Seulah says: Mongolia is a northern nation.
Lee Sungmin says: So?
Lee Sungmin says: Why are you suddenly talking about Mongols?
Goo Seulah says: Because my 2nd language was Mongolian
Goo Seulah says: Let’s love Mongols
Lee Sungmin says: Ah
Lee Sungmin says: I see
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: I’m kidding
Lee Sungmin says: My 2nd language was Japanese
Lee Sungmin says: So I really like Japanese ~
Goo Seulah says: Mine was Arabic
Lee Sungmin says: Arabic sounds fun too.. ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: It was actually Chinese
Lee Sungmin says: Thai is really hard..
Goo Seulah says: So oppa you were reading ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So you’re someone I can’t believe, right?
Goo Seulah says: Hul [T/N: Sound of shock]
Goo Seulah says: Believe me….
Goo Seulah says: When I say I fell in love with you at first sight..
Lee Sungmin says: You’re joking with me again?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: Oppa
Lee Sungmin says: Since we started this conversation
Goo Seulah says: How are you doing nowadays
Lee Sungmin says: How many times have you lied to me already~^^ How can I believe you ~
Goo Seulah says: I won’t anymore
Lee Sungmin says: ^^
Lee Sungmin says: Now just stay at home
Lee Sungmin says: And watch dramas
Lee Sungmin says: And study
Goo Seulah says: Buy me something yummy
Goo Seulah says: I’m hungry
Lee Sungmin says: And practice
Lee Sungmin says: You have no food?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: ㅠㅠ
Lee Sungmin says: How about your parents
Goo Seulah says: They went oat [sic]
Goo Seulah says: out
Lee Sungmin says: To work?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: I don’t know ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ???
Lee Sungmin says: So you’re alone at home?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You must be bored…
Goo Seulah says: Play with me
Lee Sungmin says: I have work
Lee Sungmin says: I have to go soon
Goo Seulah says: I see
Lee Sungmin says: Why do you swear at me so much every day?
Goo Seulah says: When
Lee Sungmin says: You do it a lot
Goo Seulah says: Where
Goo Seulah says: ?
Goo Seulah says: Ah terror
Lee Sungmin says: Internet
Goo Seulah says: I’m
Goo Seulah says: Sorry
Lee Sungmin says: You suddenly don’t want to anymore?
Goo Seulah says: No, it’s not that ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I have to study now
Lee Sungmin says: Ah, are you in your 1st year of high school now?
Goo Seulah says: No, 2nd
Lee Sungmin says: I see…
Lee Sungmin says: Where do you live?
Goo Seulah says: ___
Lee Sungmin says: ___ so it’s close to here?
Lee Sungmin says: Whereabouts?
Goo Seulah says: Near ___ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: But why are you laughing ~
Goo Seulah says: Just because
Goo Seulah says: Where Changmin oppa lives
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know where Changmin lives ^^
Goo Seulah says: Anyway, there ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So your school must be near there too?
Lee Sungmin says: Is it past ___?
Goo Seulah says: Oppa you came to ___, right?
Lee Sungmin says: ___? I think I know where it is
Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: You go there?
Goo Seulah says: You came there for School of Rock
Lee Sungmin says: Ah!
Goo Seulah says: I went to ___
Lee Sungmin says: You didn’t go to ___?
Goo Seulah says: I wanted to
Goo Seulah says: But I got placed somewhere weird
Lee Sungmin says: You had to go somewhere further?
Lee Sungmin says: Is it across from ___?
Goo Seulah says: No not there
Lee Sungmin says: Is it ___?
Goo Seulah says: ___ high school
Lee Sungmin says: Where is that?
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know~
Goo Seulah says: You don’t know it
Lee Sungmin says: I only know the school I went to~
Lee Sungmin says: So why do you keep doing terror?
Goo Seulah says: At first I just
Goo Seulah says: Namju and Hayeon
Goo Seulah says: I got to know them
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I started to hang out with them
Goo Seulah says: ;ㅋ;
Goo Seulah says: I met friends whose hearts beat the same way as mine
Lee Sungmin says: And other people’s hearts don’t beat the same way as yours?ㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Lee Sungmin says: So these Namju and Hayeon kids, do they live close?
Goo Seulah says: Namju lives in ____
Goo Seulah says: And Hayeon lives in ___ I think?
Lee Sungmin says: They live far..
Goo Seulah says: Jihyeong unnie lives close ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Kang Jihyeong?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: The kid that keeps doing aegyo to me lately?
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ;
Lee Sungmin says: Why is she suddenly doing that?;;
Lee Sungmin says: I got so surprised
Goo Seulah says: Because she has a lot of aegyo ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Is that it?
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;
Lee Sungmin says: You don’t have any [T/N: aegyo]?
Goo Seulah says: I have a lot
Goo Seulah says: It’s serious
Goo Seulah says: Aingg
Lee Sungmin says: It’s serious.. all right..
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ;
Lee Sungmin says: Your name is Goo Seulah?
Goo Seulah says: Yes ㅋ Why?
Goo Seulah says: You thought it was a fake name?
Lee Sungmin says: You just had a lot of names
Lee Sungmin says: I wasn’t sure which was which
Goo Seulah says: No I didn’t?
Lee Sungmin says: I only knew you as Gae Sungmin~ [T/N: ‘gae’ means ‘dog’, having similar connotations as to ‘son of a bitch’ in English. It is this anti-fan’s screen name]
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Why are you adding ‘gae’ to your own name ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Why is that my name?
Goo Seulah says: It’s Sungmin
Lee Sungmin says: That’s your name~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: ㅎㅎ
Lee Sungmin says: I’ve never thought that was my name.
Goo Seulah says: Congratulations
Lee Sungmin says: for what?
Goo Seulah says: Never mindㅋㅋㅋ
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Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Goo Seulah says: Never mindㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Have you ever followed me in a taxi and things like that too?
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Goo Seulah says: That wasn’t us..
Lee Sungmin says: That’s what I thought
Lee Sungmin says: Someone pretended she was you
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Lee Sungmin says: And followed me
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Goo Seulah says: -_-
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t know
Goo Seulah says: She said she was Gae Sungmin?
Lee Sungmin says: She didn’t say specifically that she was Gae Sungmin but
Lee Sungmin says: But anyway
Goo Seulah says: Anyway that wasn’t me
Goo Seulah says: I don’t do things like that
Lee Sungmin says: I know ~
Goo Seulah says: I study
Lee Sungmin says: Who put graffiti on the door?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Just with the other kids
Goo Seulah says: We went and ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: What was with the underwear?
Goo Seulah says: Hul
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: That wasn’t me
Goo Seulah says: Gae Kyuhyun
Lee Sungmin says: It said Gae Sungmin~
Goo Seulah says: I went with Gae Kyuhyun
Lee Sungmin says: With a detailed picture and everything
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So kindly
Goo Seulah says: Oppa your door was unlocked
Lee Sungmin says: You hung it up for the next door neighbour to use ~
Lee Sungmin says: It was unlocked?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: The door must be broken
Goo Seulah says: No, it wasn’t shut all the way
Lee Sungmin says: Oh damn it~ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You’ve come inside?
Goo Seulah says: Not me
Goo Seulah says: I was outside
Goo Seulah says: Keeping watch ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Why?
Goo Seulah says: Because that’s breaking and entering
Lee Sungmin says: You seem like you’d be best at something like that
Goo Seulah says: I was going to run if someone came
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Even between the members, you’re most famous
Lee Sungmin says: No one even knows that there are others [T/N: they had formed a clique of sorts, and there was a ‘Gae’ anti for every member]
Goo Seulah says: I know
Goo Seulah says: Because I’m popular
Goo Seulah says: There are 13 of us for all of you though>?ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I think it’s slightly different from popularity, kid~
Goo Seulah says: Well not now but
Lee Sungmin says: Do you do well at school?
Goo Seulah says: A bit..
Lee Sungmin says: Ohh~
Goo Seulah says: I have to do what I have to firstㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Your words are so good
Lee Sungmin says: Why do your actions differ~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: My actions are right
Goo Seulah says: I’m a good girl
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: I’m so charming
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: I’m so cool
Lee Sungmin says: ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
Goo Seulah says: Why are you doing that
Lee Sungmin says: Why are YOU doing that
Goo Seulah says: What am I doing??
Lee Sungmin says: Why are you suddenly being like that
Goo Seulah says: Oh yeah when is your next fan signing? ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Next year?
Goo Seulah says: I see
Goo Seulah says: I’ll go to it ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You said you weren’t a fan
Goo Seulah says: To see oppa
Lee Sungmin says: No~ It’s okay~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I want to go
Lee Sungmin says: To get my autograph?
Goo Seulah says: Yesㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: On your own?
Goo Seulah says: No
Goo Seulah says: With the rest
Lee Sungmin says: Don’t come
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: It’s dangerous ~
Goo Seulah says: Why!!!
Goo Seulah says: I’ll just go with unnie ㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Since I’m close with unnie
Lee Sungmin says: Kang Jiyeon?
Goo Seulah says: Kang Jihyeong ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Ah…ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Does Jihyeong swear a lot too?
Goo Seulah says: Only when she’s angryㅋㅋ..
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: She’s a good person
Lee Sungmin says: She looks like it
Lee Sungmin says: You look like a good person too~
Goo Seulah says: No, I look like a bad person
Lee Sungmin says: Most of the time
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I’m really nice
Lee Sungmin says: From what I’ve seen so far
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t agree with you yet
Lee Sungmin says: What did you say to the manager hyung..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Kim Minsung?
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t take the call so I don’t know but
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: It wasn’t Minsung hyung but anyway someone else~ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I was like that to Kim Minsungㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Hyung’s reaction was funny
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: He said you didn’t believe he was our manager
Goo Seulah says: Ah
Goo Seulah says: When I called you?
Lee Sungmin says: You were swearing..ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅇㅇ
Goo Seulah says: It was Gaemanager?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You talked to him
Goo Seulah says: Yesㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You said gae again…
Goo Seulah says: That ahjusshi
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh… How will this bad behaviour of yours be fixed?
Goo Seulah says: ;;
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: And you know how you
Lee Sungmin says: Apologized and left me a note
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: That made me laugh out loud~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Lee Sungmin says: I almost fell over laughing
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: When you said you’d buy me dinner when you had time~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: You were happy right
Goo Seulah says: Inside
Lee Sungmin says: Happy?
Lee Sungmin says: I wasn’t sure if it was really an apology…
Goo Seulah says: It was
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t believe you inside~
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: It was for real;
Lee Sungmin says: When you said you’d buy me dinner
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t believe you once more~
Goo Seulah says: -.-;
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Can I bring Namju?
Lee Sungmin says: But you were still
Lee Sungmin says: No~
Lee Sungmin says: What if I want to talk to just you?
Goo Seulah says: I can’t bring her?
Lee Sungmin says: No
Goo Seulah says: She has a lot to say
Lee Sungmin says: Again?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: No
Goo Seulah says: Okay I won’t
Goo Seulah says: is telling me to tell me something
Lee Sungmin says: yep~
Goo Seulah says: Why is Lee Minyoung butting in Why is she commenting on my hompy [T/N: Lee Minyoung is Sungmin’s personal friend]
Goo Seulah says: she says
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So why are you commenting on mine?
Goo Seulah says: Oppa but Namju’s really nice ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I’m not sure about that
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t like people who don’t speak nice
Goo Seulah says: She asked me to tell you something else
Goo Seulah says: Can I? ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Wht
Lee Sungmin says: What
Goo Seulah says: But she started swearingㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Just tell me as it is^^
Goo Seulah says: Whether I did or not, I commented on yours, did I ever comment on Lee Minyoung’s? Just tell her to butt out, fuck
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She’s nice?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh..
Goo Seulah says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: She should be careful of her speech..
Goo Seulah says: She speaks like that but she’s really nice;ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You don’t know that~
Lee Sungmin says: For me
Goo Seulah says: Yeah
Lee Sungmin says: That means she can’t control her own emotions~
Lee Sungmin says: Namju
Lee Sungmin says: Tsk..
Goo Seulah says: ㅎ;
Lee Sungmin says: If I say this, I’ll seem too old but
Lee Sungmin says: When she gets older
Lee Sungmin says: She’ll be criticized so much everywhere…
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I feel bad when I see something like that..
Goo Seulah says: Namju only does that on the internet
Goo Seulah says: But in reality
Goo Seulah says: She’s a really good person ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: But the fact that she’s like that on the internet means she might be like that in reality~
Goo Seulah says: No
Lee Sungmin says: No?
Goo Seulah says: I’ve known her for 2 years…ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Anyway, she’s not my style~
Lee Sungmin says: I don’t really want to get close to her
Goo Seulah says: You gave her a necklace thoughㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I did?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: Huh?
Goo Seulah says: Minyoung
Lee Sungmin says: When?
Goo Seulah says: When she and Namju met
Goo Seulah says: Minyoung gave her
Goo Seulah says: a necklace saying it was yours
Lee Sungmin says: Namju is
Lee Sungmin says: Haoul? [T/N: One of Namju’s screen names. There was a rumour that Sungmin had planned to name his child Haoul]
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Lee Sungmin says: Ah
Lee Sungmin says: Or is it Hayeon?
Goo Seulah says: Hayeon is someone else
Goo Seulah says: Lee Haoul is Namju
Lee Sungmin says: Ah really?
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I didn’t talk to her in person so I didn’t know!!
Lee Sungmin says: Darn..
Lee Sungmin says: I was trolled
Goo Seulah says: You thought Hayeon was Haoul?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She does that even after she got the necklace?
Lee Sungmin says: Yeah, I thought she changed her name
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh…
Lee Sungmin says: The disappointment is huge, Namju..
Lee Sungmin says: I really thought
Lee Sungmin says: She changed her ways after talking to Minyoung noona
Lee Sungmin says: Damn it..
Goo Seulah says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: So she came with her mother then?
Goo Seulah says: Yes
Goo Seulah says: Why didn’t you come to meet Namju..ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her to speak pretty!
Lee Sungmin says: Because I have work!!!
Lee Sungmin says: I wanted to talk to her in person too~
Goo Seulah says: I was invited to that too..ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: I didn’t go thoughㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Is the necklace still doing okay?
Goo Seulah says: Probably ㅋ I didn’t ask
Lee Sungmin says: She didn’t throw it out?
Goo Seulah says: I don’t know, why would sheㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: She swore at me so much
Lee Sungmin says: Why wouldn’t I think that way? ^^
Goo Seulah says: She didn’t throw it out
Goo Seulah says: I just asked her
Lee Sungmin says: Okay
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her thank you from me
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Tell her to look at it
Lee Sungmin says: And remember to speak nicely
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: You like the sea?
Goo Seulah says: I willㅋㅋ
Goo Seulah says: Who?
Lee Sungmin says: You
Goo Seulah says: No I don’t
Goo Seulah says: Why?
Lee Sungmin says: That picture isn’t of the sea?
Goo Seulah says: Ah;
Goo Seulah says: ㅋ
Goo Seulah says: That;
Goo Seulah says: I went on a trip with friends
Lee Sungmin says: It must be nice to go on trips with friends~
Goo Seulah says: It was no fun
Lee Sungmin says: I used to go too
Lee Sungmin says: But after I graduated high school
Lee Sungmin says: There wasn’t a lot of time to go
Goo Seulah says: I skipped school to go ㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: There are MTs and things in university…
Lee Sungmin says: I skipped school to go too
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I went to Chuncheon
Goo Seulah says: I didn’t want to go to school so ㅎ
Lee Sungmin says: On a train
Goo Seulah says: Me too
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t do those things anymore..
Lee Sungmin says: ㅋㅋㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: Sigh..
Goo Seulah says: Why?ㅋ
Lee Sungmin says: I’m jealous of you~
Lee Sungmin says: I want to go on the train
Lee Sungmin says: And go on trips
Lee Sungmin says: I want to enjoy comfortably..
Lee Sungmin says: I can’t
Lee Sungmin says: Because I have something called the company
Goo Seulah says: Why ㅋㅋAh
Lee Sungmin says: And I have managers…
Lee Sungmin says: Anyway, I have work so I have to go~
Lee Sungmin says: Sleep tight~
Goo Seulah says: Already
Goo Seulah says: I’m not sleeping yet
Lee Sungmin says: Ah just
Lee Sungmin says: I’m just saying it in advance
Goo Seulah says: Ahㅋㅋ okay
Lee Sungmin says: There’s not a particularly ending ment either
this made me admire him all the more if it is indeed true.
Tuesday, August 7, 2012
drama drama drama
the world of Korean entertainment is one full of drama. I do not say this just because they have amazingly popular high in demand dramas which they film ridiculously . Drama episodes are filmed recklessly close to being Live TV. I feel sorry for the actors and staff but no that is not what I meant in the least .
It feels like years to me since the tragedy Daesung was involved with when he was involved in an accident that cost a man his life. Though the drunken unconscious man could have been dead before Daesung accidentally ran him over. Fans and non fans were disgruntled over what had happened.
It's understandable to be upset to a certain point , however some people take things too far.
He was driving carelessly but he did not cause the accident, that however did not stop people from accusing him of being under the influence (which he wasn't). Apparently it was a case of involuntary manslaughter only god knows the absolute truth about that.
The reason this incident as well as Kagin's Hit and Run where he later turned himself in have become a remembered incidents recently is due to Nickkhuns DUI. After having 2 glasses of beer at a company party he drove home since he had a flight to Japan the next morning. On his way home he failed to check the intersection as did the on coming motorcyclist who was not wearing his safety equipment. Had he been wearing the safety equipment perhaps he would have been less injured.
Korean Culture tends to leave little room for flaws , perfection does not exist but they strive for it so desperately you are shunned for showing flaws.
I will show you some things that have been said about these men and other entertainers. Men whom don't get let off the hook where any tom dick or harry would because They ARE Idols. People Assume they will get special treatment due to status but no my friends Idols in Korea do not get let off the hook due to fame though "normal" Citizens are , they use Idols as scape goats but do not punish everyday ordinary folks. I'll also show opinions on the way they are treated by fans from fans.
Drunk Driving' Nichkhun makes a public apology "I would like to write this letter of apology for such an irresponsible act"
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....정말 식겁했다 --;;
막무가내로 감싸주는 빠순이들은 진짜
인간의 최소한의 개념도 없는 그냥 된장녀다
본인 가족들이 만약 그랬다면 어떠할지 참...
옳고 그름은 확실히 하자 스레기들아
The news really shocked me --;; The stupid fangirls that keep protecting him need to realize that they don't have the most basic common sense of a human being. If this had happened to one of their family members, how differently would they have reacted... Let's differentiate between right and wrong, you trash
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지가 잘못한게 있으니깐 영어로 씨부리네
태국으로 가라
라디오스타나와서 말하는거보니 박진영 닮아 언플 잘 하드만
첨엔 순수해서 좋았는데
이젠 티비에서 별루 보고싶지않다.
He used to be fine writing Korean on his Twitter, but now that he's done something wrong, he only writes in English. Just go back to Thailand. Just like Park Jin Young, I noticed that he was good at making up a public image for himself with media play on Radio Star. I liked him because I thought he was innocent, but now I don't even want to see him on TV.
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드렁쿤
Drunkhun
"Return after reflection"... Nichkhun officially announces halt in activities
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닉쿤이 음주운전으로 사람치면 => 오빠가 술먹고그럴수도잇찌 ㅠㅠ
음주운전자가 닉쿤치면 => 개XX 니가 사람이냐!!! 시X !!!
When Nichkhun hits a person while drunk driving => Oppa could do that if he was drunk T_T
If a drunk driver hits Nichkhun => Son of a bitch, how could you call yourself human!!! Fuck!!!
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돌아오다니?ㅡㅡ
Do you HAVE to come back?
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대마지용 강인구속 박유천식에 이은 또다른작품
드.렁.쿤
Marijuana Jiyong, Kangin Prison, Yoochun Asthma, and now Drunkhun
One Night', 'Drunk Driving' Alex reported, but not Nichkhun?
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한밤은 3대 기획사 똥꼬빠는곳인데 모르나?ㅋㅋ대마드래곤도 방송 안나왔던곳임 ㅋㅋㅋ
Didn't you know that the show sucks on the assholes of the big three? ㅋㅋ Marijuana Dragon wasn't reported on either ㅋㅋㅋ
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첫소식부터 음원차트 조작 나오길래 딱 알아봤다ㅉㅉ
대형기획사가 그냥 스케일만 크다고 대형기획사가 아니고
자기 식구들 사고 칠때마다 어느정도 커버까지 쳐줄수 있는
힘이있기 때문에 대형기획사다ㅉㅉ 아무튼 닉쿤 빨리 니들나라로
꺼져 이 외국인새끼야ㅉㅉ
I knew when the first article released today was about some music chart manipulation. A big company is not just a big company in size but because they have the power to cover for their artists whenever they fuck up. Anyway, I hope Nichkun hurries up and fucks off to his country. Screw off, foreigner.
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돌아가~너네나라로!!
Go back~ to your country!!
Marijuana Jiyong, Kangin Prison, Yoochun Asthma, speed bum daesung and now Drunkhun Hating on Yoochun because he has asthma?
If I wasn't into KPOP already and saw those comments,I'd be like
''wow,Koreans must be a really trashy race if the highest rated comments on one of the most read websites are like that''
Look at them pretending to be flawless beings. Sickening. THEN,they accuse sasaengs of being 'evil'
wow,it seems like everyone says that netizens treat both Daesung and Nickhun differently coz' Daesung is more popular...NO,Netizens doesn't treat Daesung nicely at all...during his case, a lot of netizens been sending their hate to him...saying that he should just kill himself and just stop being a celebrity..Daesung isolate himself and find peace at the church..and when he make a public appearance with BigBang..he still receives hate though...the thing is the netizens will always react the same way when idols involve in a big scandal..but it'll go away with time...people started to accept Daesung after some time...and the same thing will happen to Nickhun too...so stop saying that people are being unfair to Nickhun and compare it to Daesung...coz' it just not right...let just wait and see how JYPE will handle this case...i just hope JYPE didn't kick Nickhun out just like what they did to Jay...finger cross...
That is incredibly mean! I understand that what Nichkhun did was not right, and that he should reflect and get the same punishment as anybody else would but I don't understand the need for people to say such horrible things to him. It's like bullying the bully who has realized that what he did was wrong and is getting punished by the teacher already, how does that make any sense? You're doing things just as bad/worse than what he did and if I remember correctly, we moved away for the eye for a eye philosophy a couple of hundreds of years ago (and to ask for him to die, that's actually even worse than simply an eye for an eye). It's not a matter of being a crazy fangirl, or forgiving him just because he's an idol, but rather that he should get the lawful punishment but not senseless emotional bashing (you complain that people who aren't idols won't get special treatment yet emotionally tear down every single frickin idol who does something wrong...yeah I clearly see how idols get "special treatment"). Damn hypocrites, whoever is telling Nichkhun to die/get hurt/go back to Thailand. Nichkhun, please reflect on your actions but ignore the people who are insulting you!
About Nickkhun......
Decent?
He cant sing. Cant dance
All looks.
Gdruggin dint drive. He smoke weed like a true kigga
Dae however has been apologized by the family
So i could care less about what netizen says
BBCs are calling for Nichkhun to kill himself (making up "death petitions") - and Hottests are telling BBCs to kill themselves first, SBS just released footage of the accident and Hottests are going "OMG, oppa didn't mean it! The motorcyclist was OBVIOUSLY faking! Other people have gotten into drunk driving accidents too!"
Oh, and my *favourite* one (HEAVY sarcasm): "Before he was oppa, he had a name and it wasn't a murder name, so why come make hating bashful comments?"
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NOcommentJuly 26, 2012 3:35 AM
All of that is beyond ridiculous. I think Nichkhun should be punished, but killing himself? NO. These Hottest fans sound delusional.
the netizen have started, everyone.......
I just read that they made a petition asking Kangin to be banned from Super Junior...
Surprised? I don't think so.... But I'm really really pissed off right now....
I think the goverment need to open a rehab facilitation for netizens, educating them what to do and what not to do..
First Jay, now Kangin, I wonder who's next..
It's like they're planning to eliminate one member of each idol groups....freaking ridiculous...
See this is KOREA for everyone. Once you hit a bad trip, people will constantly make you look like a bad person when you didn't mean that to happen. I feel really bad for him. He really needs to get out of Korea and have a nice vacation, just staying away from drama. He's probably very worried about his future career. I'm sure he didn't mean this to happen at all. When you're famous, you can get unlucky when you're with the wrong people. I just hope he doesn't commit suicide because of so many mistakes he makes. Everyone makes mistakes, but they try to find ways to heal their mistakes. So I hope he stays strong, really do. Even though I'm not fan of Super Junior or him, but it's such a sad news for someone like him to have to go through this issue.
2PM.. some connections O_O As if it was meant to be... 2PM jaebum got kicked out of Korea
folks DO try to make the situation worse for you when you are down and try to spread false rumors about you to make you look worse. An example?
http://star.mt.co.kr/view/stview.php?no=20...link=2&SVEC
The police are denying internet reports that they couldn't reach Kangin because he had his phone turned off (and thus he didn't show up for a schedule police interview). As if Kangin actually needed help in looking bad in this situation, the things some folks will do to kick someone when they are down.
Non of these compare to the heat T-ara has been getting due to a member being kick out of the group and reports about that said member being bullied by fellow members. It became such a big deal it actually over shadowed the DUI nickkhun had , the heat was shifted rather quick. That's not to say there weren't still some hater trolls hanging about. Netizen's involved with k-entertainment always gotta hate on somebody.
On that note I leave you with the 4 types of kpop trolls! http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/the-4-types-of-k-pop-trolls/
It feels like years to me since the tragedy Daesung was involved with when he was involved in an accident that cost a man his life. Though the drunken unconscious man could have been dead before Daesung accidentally ran him over. Fans and non fans were disgruntled over what had happened.
It's understandable to be upset to a certain point , however some people take things too far.
He was driving carelessly but he did not cause the accident, that however did not stop people from accusing him of being under the influence (which he wasn't). Apparently it was a case of involuntary manslaughter only god knows the absolute truth about that.
The reason this incident as well as Kagin's Hit and Run where he later turned himself in have become a remembered incidents recently is due to Nickkhuns DUI. After having 2 glasses of beer at a company party he drove home since he had a flight to Japan the next morning. On his way home he failed to check the intersection as did the on coming motorcyclist who was not wearing his safety equipment. Had he been wearing the safety equipment perhaps he would have been less injured.
Korean Culture tends to leave little room for flaws , perfection does not exist but they strive for it so desperately you are shunned for showing flaws.
I will show you some things that have been said about these men and other entertainers. Men whom don't get let off the hook where any tom dick or harry would because They ARE Idols. People Assume they will get special treatment due to status but no my friends Idols in Korea do not get let off the hook due to fame though "normal" Citizens are , they use Idols as scape goats but do not punish everyday ordinary folks. I'll also show opinions on the way they are treated by fans from fans.
Drunk Driving' Nichkhun makes a public apology "I would like to write this letter of apology for such an irresponsible act"
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....정말 식겁했다 --;;
막무가내로 감싸주는 빠순이들은 진짜
인간의 최소한의 개념도 없는 그냥 된장녀다
본인 가족들이 만약 그랬다면 어떠할지 참...
옳고 그름은 확실히 하자 스레기들아
The news really shocked me --;; The stupid fangirls that keep protecting him need to realize that they don't have the most basic common sense of a human being. If this had happened to one of their family members, how differently would they have reacted... Let's differentiate between right and wrong, you trash
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트위터에 한글로 잘 만 글 써올리더니
지가 잘못한게 있으니깐 영어로 씨부리네
태국으로 가라
라디오스타나와서 말하는거보니 박진영 닮아 언플 잘 하드만
첨엔 순수해서 좋았는데
이젠 티비에서 별루 보고싶지않다.
He used to be fine writing Korean on his Twitter, but now that he's done something wrong, he only writes in English. Just go back to Thailand. Just like Park Jin Young, I noticed that he was good at making up a public image for himself with media play on Radio Star. I liked him because I thought he was innocent, but now I don't even want to see him on TV.
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드렁쿤
Drunkhun
"Return after reflection"... Nichkhun officially announces halt in activities
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닉쿤이 음주운전으로 사람치면 => 오빠가 술먹고그럴수도잇찌 ㅠㅠ
음주운전자가 닉쿤치면 => 개XX 니가 사람이냐!!! 시X !!!
When Nichkhun hits a person while drunk driving => Oppa could do that if he was drunk T_T
If a drunk driver hits Nichkhun => Son of a bitch, how could you call yourself human!!! Fuck!!!
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돌아오다니?ㅡㅡ
Do you HAVE to come back?
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대마지용 강인구속 박유천식에 이은 또다른작품
드.렁.쿤
Marijuana Jiyong, Kangin Prison, Yoochun Asthma, and now Drunkhun
One Night', 'Drunk Driving' Alex reported, but not Nichkhun?
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한밤은 3대 기획사 똥꼬빠는곳인데 모르나?ㅋㅋ대마드래곤도 방송 안나왔던곳임 ㅋㅋㅋ
Didn't you know that the show sucks on the assholes of the big three? ㅋㅋ Marijuana Dragon wasn't reported on either ㅋㅋㅋ
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첫소식부터 음원차트 조작 나오길래 딱 알아봤다ㅉㅉ
대형기획사가 그냥 스케일만 크다고 대형기획사가 아니고
자기 식구들 사고 칠때마다 어느정도 커버까지 쳐줄수 있는
힘이있기 때문에 대형기획사다ㅉㅉ 아무튼 닉쿤 빨리 니들나라로
꺼져 이 외국인새끼야ㅉㅉ
I knew when the first article released today was about some music chart manipulation. A big company is not just a big company in size but because they have the power to cover for their artists whenever they fuck up. Anyway, I hope Nichkun hurries up and fucks off to his country. Screw off, foreigner.
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돌아가~너네나라로!!
Go back~ to your country!!
Marijuana Jiyong, Kangin Prison, Yoochun Asthma, speed bum daesung and now Drunkhun Hating on Yoochun because he has asthma?
If I wasn't into KPOP already and saw those comments,I'd be like
''wow,Koreans must be a really trashy race if the highest rated comments on one of the most read websites are like that''
Look at them pretending to be flawless beings. Sickening. THEN,they accuse sasaengs of being 'evil'
wow,it seems like everyone says that netizens treat both Daesung and Nickhun differently coz' Daesung is more popular...NO,Netizens doesn't treat Daesung nicely at all...during his case, a lot of netizens been sending their hate to him...saying that he should just kill himself and just stop being a celebrity..Daesung isolate himself and find peace at the church..and when he make a public appearance with BigBang..he still receives hate though...the thing is the netizens will always react the same way when idols involve in a big scandal..but it'll go away with time...people started to accept Daesung after some time...and the same thing will happen to Nickhun too...so stop saying that people are being unfair to Nickhun and compare it to Daesung...coz' it just not right...let just wait and see how JYPE will handle this case...i just hope JYPE didn't kick Nickhun out just like what they did to Jay...finger cross...
That is incredibly mean! I understand that what Nichkhun did was not right, and that he should reflect and get the same punishment as anybody else would but I don't understand the need for people to say such horrible things to him. It's like bullying the bully who has realized that what he did was wrong and is getting punished by the teacher already, how does that make any sense? You're doing things just as bad/worse than what he did and if I remember correctly, we moved away for the eye for a eye philosophy a couple of hundreds of years ago (and to ask for him to die, that's actually even worse than simply an eye for an eye). It's not a matter of being a crazy fangirl, or forgiving him just because he's an idol, but rather that he should get the lawful punishment but not senseless emotional bashing (you complain that people who aren't idols won't get special treatment yet emotionally tear down every single frickin idol who does something wrong...yeah I clearly see how idols get "special treatment"). Damn hypocrites, whoever is telling Nichkhun to die/get hurt/go back to Thailand. Nichkhun, please reflect on your actions but ignore the people who are insulting you!
About Nickkhun......
Decent?
He cant sing. Cant dance
All looks.
Gdruggin dint drive. He smoke weed like a true kigga
Dae however has been apologized by the family
So i could care less about what netizen says
BBCs are calling for Nichkhun to kill himself (making up "death petitions") - and Hottests are telling BBCs to kill themselves first, SBS just released footage of the accident and Hottests are going "OMG, oppa didn't mean it! The motorcyclist was OBVIOUSLY faking! Other people have gotten into drunk driving accidents too!"
Oh, and my *favourite* one (HEAVY sarcasm): "Before he was oppa, he had a name and it wasn't a murder name, so why come make hating bashful comments?"
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NOcommentJuly 26, 2012 3:35 AM
All of that is beyond ridiculous. I think Nichkhun should be punished, but killing himself? NO. These Hottest fans sound delusional.
the netizen have started, everyone.......
I just read that they made a petition asking Kangin to be banned from Super Junior...
Surprised? I don't think so.... But I'm really really pissed off right now....
I think the goverment need to open a rehab facilitation for netizens, educating them what to do and what not to do..
First Jay, now Kangin, I wonder who's next..
It's like they're planning to eliminate one member of each idol groups....freaking ridiculous...
See this is KOREA for everyone. Once you hit a bad trip, people will constantly make you look like a bad person when you didn't mean that to happen. I feel really bad for him. He really needs to get out of Korea and have a nice vacation, just staying away from drama. He's probably very worried about his future career. I'm sure he didn't mean this to happen at all. When you're famous, you can get unlucky when you're with the wrong people. I just hope he doesn't commit suicide because of so many mistakes he makes. Everyone makes mistakes, but they try to find ways to heal their mistakes. So I hope he stays strong, really do. Even though I'm not fan of Super Junior or him, but it's such a sad news for someone like him to have to go through this issue.
2PM.. some connections O_O As if it was meant to be... 2PM jaebum got kicked out of Korea
folks DO try to make the situation worse for you when you are down and try to spread false rumors about you to make you look worse. An example?
http://star.mt.co.kr/view/stview.php?no=20...link=2&SVEC
The police are denying internet reports that they couldn't reach Kangin because he had his phone turned off (and thus he didn't show up for a schedule police interview). As if Kangin actually needed help in looking bad in this situation, the things some folks will do to kick someone when they are down.
Non of these compare to the heat T-ara has been getting due to a member being kick out of the group and reports about that said member being bullied by fellow members. It became such a big deal it actually over shadowed the DUI nickkhun had , the heat was shifted rather quick. That's not to say there weren't still some hater trolls hanging about. Netizen's involved with k-entertainment always gotta hate on somebody.
On that note I leave you with the 4 types of kpop trolls! http://seoulbeats.com/2011/11/the-4-types-of-k-pop-trolls/
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